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The Chatty Cathy Principle
The Chatty Cathy Principle seems like a good name for an idea that has taken root in Washington: If you are willing to spend enough money, you can get pretty much anybody to say pretty much whatever you want them to. Yesterday, we learned how the drug industry, which has been spending $609,000 a day to lobby Congress to get its way on health care reform, has been scripting members of Congress. And in today's Washington Post, Michael Shear tells us that the Chamber of Commerce is attempting to carry the Chatty Cathy Principle forward into the academic world. Here's how:
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and an assortment of national business groups opposed to President Obama's health-care reform effort are collecting money to finance an economic study that could be used to portray the legislation as a job killer and threat to the nation's economy, according to an e-mail solicitation from a top Chamber official.
The e-mail, written by the Chamber's senior health policy manager and obtained by The Washington Post, proposes spending $50,000 to hire a "respected economist" to study the impact of health-care legislation, which is expected to come to the Senate floor this week, would have on jobs and the economy.
Step two, according to the e-mail, appears to assume the outcome of the economic review: "The economist will then circulate a sign-on letter to hundreds of other economists saying that the bill will kill jobs and hurt the economy. We will then be able to use this open letter to produce advertisements, and as a powerful lobbying and grass-roots document."
Nice. And no surprise that, according to the Chamber's email, this idea was the brainchild of "our congressional allies." Let's see if any "respected economist" is that badly in need of $50,000.
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While not an economist there is a man perfect for the job.
John Lott knows how to "work" numbers and has the support of Mary Rosh.
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Yes, the "academic world" is bought-and-paid-for, which is why this physicist lost his job at BYU:
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/04/04/thy-speech-shall-whisper-out-of-the-dust/
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A mathemetician, a physicist and a 'respected economist are all applying for the same job. Each takes a turn at the interview which consists of only one question - "What is two plus two". The mathemetician goes first and anwers "two plus two is precisely and unambigously four". The physicist is next and answers with slightly more hesitation, "two plus two is four - plus or minus point zero zero five" The respected economist is next and when presented with the question, immediately gets up, goes to the window and closes the blinds, turns back and says "What do you need it to be?"
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Thank you for my first smile for today.
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haha. you managed to make the stench emanating from this a little less unbearable lol
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Q: How many conservative economists does it take to change a light bulb?A1: None. If the government would just leave it alone, it would screw itself in.
A2: None, because, look! It's getting brighter! It's definitely getting brighter!
A3: None, they're all waiting for the unseen hand of the market to correct the lighting disequilibrium.
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How many lawyers does it take to change a light bulb? -- As many as you can afford.
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Also, Paul Dirks, the seventh letter in "mathematician" is not "e", even if you repeat it twice. Maybe it should be, but it isn't.
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As for the Chatty Cathy syndrome, I go back in DC more than forty years, and I can't remember a time when that sort of thing wasn't going on. There's more of it now, and it's more obvious, but it's nothing new. Good name, tho, KT or whever else got there first.;
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A bonus piece of amusement about this whole situation: they say at the end that the assumed study would then serve as "a powerful ... grass-roots document."
A study that's commissioned by a lobbying group and conceived of by "congressional allies" is almost the exact opposite of anything "grass-roots."
Hardly a new strategy for them, but a bit of a surprise to see it so starkly on display.
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Dunno if Josh Marshall at TPM coined the term, but a fake grass-roots undertaking like this is often called "astroturf"...
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Some one tell me what the difference is.
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Analysts have been wooed in hundreds of private briefings with senior military leaders, including officials with significant influence over contracting and budget matters, records show. They have been taken on tours of Iraq and given access to classified intelligence. They have been briefed by officials from the White House, State Department and Justice Department, including Mr. Cheney, Alberto R. Gonzales and Stephen J. Hadley.
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In turn, members of this group have echoed administration talking points, sometimes even when they suspected the information was false or inflated. Some analysts acknowledge they suppressed doubts because they feared jeopardizing their access.
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A few expressed regret for participating in what they regarded as an effort to dupe the American public with propaganda dressed as independent military analysis.
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“It was them saying, ‘We need to stick our hands up your back and move your mouth for you,' ” Robert S. Bevelacqua, a retired Green Beret and former Fox News analyst, said.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/us/20generals.html?_r=2&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1208689475-bo6qosQ0jvGCpjWeQeDAFw
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The Education Department paid commentator Armstrong Williams $241,000 to help promote President Bush's No Child Left Behind law on the air, an arrangement that Williams acknowledged yesterday involved "bad judgment" on his part.
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In taking the money, funneled through the Ketchum Inc. public relations firm, Williams produced and aired a commercial on his syndicated television and radio shows featuring Education Secretary Roderick R. Paige, touted Bush's education policy, and urged other programs to interview Paige. He did not disclose the contract when talking about the law during cable television appearances or writing about it in his newspaper column.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56330-2005Jan7.html
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The Bush administration payment of columnists refers to the payment of public funds to right-wing media commentators by several U.S. executive departments under Cabinet officials to promote various policies of U.S. President George W. Bush's administration. Hundreds of thousands of dollars were paid to at least three commentators to promote Bush administration policies.
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The payments were revealed on January 7, 2005, in an investigative report by Greg Toppo of USA Today. USA Today had obtained the information through documents provided by the U.S. Department of Education after the newspaper had made a Freedom of Information Act request. The documents showed that Armstrong Williams, a prominent syndicated columnist and pundit on CNN and CNBC, had received $241,000 of tax money through the Education Department's contract with Ketchum Communications, a public relations firm. In exchange for the money, Williams promoted the No Child Left Behind initiative and encouraged other journalists and commentators to provide favorable views of the law. Williams admitted that he had received the payments and wrote a column entitled "My Apology," admitting to the charges but writing that he "did not change [his] views just because my PR firm was receiving paid advertising promoting the No Child Left Behind Act." Williams' column was cancelled by the Tribune Company, which had previously syndicated his work.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_administration_payment_of_columnists
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The scientific integrity of medical research has been clouded in recent years by articles that were drafted by drug company-sponsored ghostwriters and then passed off as the work of independent academic authors.
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Yet the leading medical journals have continued to rely largely on an honor system of disclosure to detect such potential bias, asking authors to voluntarily report any industry ties or contributors to their manuscripts.
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But now, in light of recently released evidence that some drug makers have gone to great lengths to turn scientific articles into marketing vehicles for their products, some influential medical editors are cracking down on industry-financed ghostwriting. And they are getting help from some members of Congress.
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These editors are demanding that journals impose tougher disclosure policies for academic authors and that the journals enforce their own rules by actively investigating the provenance of manuscripts and by punishing authors who play down extensive contributions by ghostwriters.
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In medical journal circles, the exorcism of industry-financed editorial assistance even has its own name: ghostbusting.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/32916226
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Keep in mind while you are thinking about chatty cathy, there is a even larger problem that goes beyond members of congress. Today we see increasingly agressive billion dollar public relation firms being given easy and ready access to local television news programs where fake news programs are created with the intent to sell products and push political agendas.
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Local news programs are some of the most cash strapped in the industry and are not able to employ very many truly skilled reporters. So they are willing to outsource their news reporting to advertisers and the government. Then they hide the fact that news value is not really determined by the public's right to know, but instead by market research firms.-
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You might also note that all of those arrangements were exposed by ... the media. As were the Chatty Cathy episodes of the past couple of days.
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KT-I hope you take what I posted as an attack on the media for reporting or non-reporting. However, my point is that our media is manipulated in all sorts of manners, for example through professional public relations and covert and overt government propaganda which disseminates propaganda as news.
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What are often deemed as credible news sources can often knowingly or unknowingly be pushing political agendas and propaganda.It should come as no surprise that this same sort of thing can happen to the members of congress and their staffs. And yes it should be exposed by the media and the media has a responsiblity to expose it when it occurs in their ranks.
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i'm still pushing back against pafro's mystifying assertion yesterday that somehow the nyt's REPORTING of the chatty cathy congress was more corrupt than what the chatty cathys were actually doing.
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sometimes, i think that some of our commenters have been programmed to respond to everything with: "But the media is worse!" i have really tried to grow a thicker skin, but sometimes get frustrated at this exercise of turning everything that happens into a discussion of the media.
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Well, the media are not monolithic, despite increasing consolidation.
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eg., FOX is obviously a propaganda outlet.
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When CNN hires military spokespeople to act as "impartial" analysts, and then refuses the acknowledge the issue, I'm inclined to suspect a larger pro-war corporate mission, But it could be simple laziness + intellectual dishonesty. In either case, it has permanently tainted CNN's reputation as far as I'm concerned.
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When NYT publishes Judith Miller, it seems like a kind of Pavlovian perpetual-war DC centrism run amok, plus they got played by the Bush admin, which obviously knew how to plant favorable stories.
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When General Electric runs pro-business stories in their various media outlets, that's just PR by another name.
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When local news stations are paid to run big-pharma spots that look like news stories, and fail to alert viewers that these "news" stories are fake, that's just pure profit motive.
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And of course there is lots of serious, real journalism going on. (Sarah Chayse, Jane Mayer, Amy Goodman, off the top of my head.)
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I guess one way you could push back is if you could answer whether our media institutions are pretending that Amity Shlaes (whose primary claims to fame are she was fired from the Financial Times for lying about Hurricane Katrina and she wrote a widely mocked book) is an economist or somehow qualified to make economic assertions? You can start by consulting this article:
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1906802_1906838_1906978,00.html
and this one:
http://www.tnr.com/article/books/wasting-away-hooverville
This "Chatty Kathy" stuff the CoC is trying to mainline isn't new, Amity Shlaes showed us how it is done:
1. Say/write stupid, dishonest stuff that sounds moderately math-y and technical that a right-wing outfit likes and wants spread further.
2. Get your dishonest work mainstreamed in Time Magazine without any sort of messy context detailing how dishonest you are.
The only reason that Genentech or the Chamber pull this crap is because it has worked forever and everyone just figured it was the way politics works. Everyone just looked the other way.
Why do you think the Washington Post was caught so flat-footed when they were caught selling Ceci Connolley's byline to the highest bidder at their off-the-record "Salon's"? Because they were doing something that was traditionally just done and wasn't a big deal. Hey, that reminds me, what's Ceci Connolley doing these days...you'd think that any reporter who was a willing participant in the pay to play scandal would be out on the street and jobless...that must have been someone else with the same name that I just saw on TV this morning opining about health care.
Sure it is nice that the most ham-handed garbage like this is being exposed, but the next time some heavily moneyed special interest wants to push its agenda, they will get their propaganda studies published (and debunked by some poor chap writing at an unread blog) while the propagandists experts behind the studies will get to write opinion columns in Time. -
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KT-That should have been "don't take" what I wrote as an attack on the media.
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I think what you are seeing from the commenters though is pretty much sheer frustration at the amount of high profile persons in your profession that utterly fail their readership/viewership on a daily basis for whatever reason.
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You and other bloggers here bear the brunt of that frustration because a few like you choose to engage your readership in a thoughtful and meaningful way. In other words you care about your readership.When one of us points out something you may have not considered or ask you to back up what you are reporting you respond by providing links, sources or explaining why you are reporting the way you are.
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But I think you might perhaps be missing an important point if you mistakenly focus on the development of thick skin. You have never hidden from the uncomfortable. This two way communication, near instant fact checking and challenging of news reporting and analysis is the future. I think no matter what happens to print or television journalism you are well prepared for it. -
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i think i'll just go back to defending my own work. these other efforts usually end up with a bunch of "but what about, what about, what about ..." questions that could easily eat all my time and prevent me from doing actual, um, journalism.
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What gysgt213 said about bearing the brunt of criticism. Thanks.
Those of us that work in industries where there is personal and institutional accountability are just incredibly frustrated at the lack of it in the one industry where it should be jmost important.
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Are our corrupt media institutions still pretending that English Major Amity Shlaes is an economist?
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I'm sure there will be at least one who will jump at this.
I'd like to suggest that this phenomenon is more like "Chucky" than "Chatty-cathy"
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Here's guessing respected Harvard economist Greg Mankiw is up for the job. Mankiw is already opining on his blog that, "If a government policy increases the demand for a service, the price of that service tends to rise." Pafro's suggestion of Amity Shales is a darned good one, too.
The Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com
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I've been through a business type graduate program. And I'm respected by my friends (mostly). I will happily sham up any study these guys want for $40,000. The $10k discount is due to my extreme patriotism and large student loans.
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You're hired!
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What is fascinating in the discussion of media accountability and the quality of reporting is the fact that the AP admitted putting 11 reporters on the job of fact-checking Palin's book.
I think back to the Judith Miller fables about aluminum tubes printed on the front page of The New York Times in the run-up to the war while reporters at McClatchy were actually unearthing the truth... That is, that the aluminum tubes in question were too thin to be used in centrifuges and were likely being used to build rocket launchers.
But the McClatchy reports were all but ignored by the media at large, while Miller;'s bogus "reporting" (sources citing the same false information that these same sources had planted in the first place) was trumpeted by many in the mainstream media -- including the AP -- and used by the Cheney administration and its lackeys to march us off into Iraq.
The twisted priorities of the AP (11 reporters on Palin's brainless, worthless, lying memoir) and cheerleading us into Iraq on the basis of false, uninvestigated WMD claims tell us more than we need to know about the sorry state of affairs in professional journalism.
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" .. Let's see if any "respected economist" is that badly in need of $50,000. .."
$50,000! So an "respected economist" ponders:
Benefits: Minimalist survival on l;ess than $50 a week in the forests of Boneo => 1,000 weeks of survival. WOW!Cost: How much is "respect" really worth?
It is said that everything, almost, has a price.
Can an aged "respected economist" use an extra $50,000 - say, to make that planned retirement in Miami even cozier?"respect" among economist depends at times and to some degree on persuasion - as in the case of the everlasting feud between the gangs of the supply-side and the demand-side economics.
Some years ago, a presenter in a lecture I attended stated that with some agility, one can use carefully selected data and statistics to support any pet viewpoint.
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"You might also note that all of those arrangements were exposed by ... the media. As were the Chatty Cathy episodes of the past couple of days."
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Does the media have a doll they can use to illustrate that fact that when corporations spend enough money, they can not only get pretty much anybody to say pretty much whatever they want them to, they can also get our so-called elected representatives to vote for whatever the corporations want them to? No Happy Whore doll? Pity. -
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Can we raise enough money to form our own “KT-PAC” real folks' lobby? How much does a senator cost?
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Cost, I mean, count me in.
I have my banners ready - just waiting for a demo ...
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[...] the White House Chief of Staff, and caught him at a moment when he was feeling pretty amused by a report in this morning's Washington Post. That, of course, would be the one suggesting that the U.S. Chamber of Commerce would pay $50,000 to [...]
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