Rahm Emanuel v. The Chamber of Commerce
I happened to have an interview scheduled today with the White House Chief of Staff, and caught him at a moment when he was feeling pretty amused by a report in this morning's Washington Post. That, of course, would be the one suggesting that the U.S. Chamber of Commerce would pay $50,000 to a "respected economist" willing to come to a pre-ordained conclusion that health reform legislation would kill jobs.
"Now I know the price for a tenured economist," Rahm Emanuel chuckled. "I've come to the conclusion that they're firm in their opinions. It's their principles that are flexible."
Emanuel pointed to another report that is already out--one that the White House touted when it was released last week. This is the Business Roundtable's study, conducted by the consulting firm Hewitt Associates, finding that the "right legislative reforms" could actually save employers $3,000 per worker by 2019. What should scare business, the study said, is doing nothing:
In a report for Business Roundtable (BRT) titled “Health Care Reform: The Perils of Inaction and the Promise of Effective Action,” Hewitt pointed out the potential benefits of revamping the nation's health care system, if done wisely, and the pitfalls of inaction. Access concerns have rightfully been a big focus of recent national debates. However, for the 98 out of 100 companies (with 200 or more workers) that already provide coverage1 and for their employees, rising health care costs are the primary concern. The current health care system continues to push spending upward at a pace faster than the growth in the overall economy. If U.S. companies are to remain competitive in an increasingly global marketplace, we must do more and do it faster to bring down the rate of increase in health care costs.
Without fundamental reform, there is little reason to expect that cost increases over the next 10 years will be different from the recent past. If the cost trends of the past 10 years repeat, by 2019, employment-based spending on health care at large employers will be 166% higher than today on a per-employee basis. This equates to an average of $28,530 per employee when employer subsidies, employee contributions, and employee out-of-pocket costs are combined. We estimate that if enacted properly, the right legislative reforms could potentially reduce that trend line by more than $3,000 per employee, to $25,435. If we are able to enact broader market reforms that eventually lower future cost increases to an average of 4% per year, we could potentially reduce average per-employee costs further to $23,151 per employee by 2019.
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Maybe you could have asked Rahm about the report of Medicare's actuary that estimates that despite the rising cost of the current system, the status quo would be less of a bite to GDP than "HC reform".
Would not fit with the liberal blather they have been selling for months. So many "inconvenient truths" in the liberal crisis's that they rush to cure
http://spectator.org/blog/2009/11/16/obama-administration-actuaries
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Speaking of paid hacks:
"I suppose a liberal could still argue that it's better to cover more people even if it will cost us more as a nation.
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Actually, any normal human being with a brain and a conscience ("conservatives" need not apply on either count) would argue precisely that. Que Rep. Grayson: the Republican Health Care plan: 1) don't get sick and 2) if you get sick, die quickly. -
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shepherdung:
"Actually, any normal human being with a brain and a conscience ("conservatives" need not apply on either count) would argue precisely that."
So you, the Prez and other dimwitted liberal groups that have been arguing we have to control costs are just lying pieces of crap that you accuse everybody else of being.
Which is exactly why the bill keeps hidden under a rock because any liberal thought (if that really exists) turns to a steaming pile of manure in th elight of day
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"So you, the Prez and other dimwitted liberal groups that have been arguing we have to control costs are just lying..."
Controlling costs means reducing the growth in or otherwise bringing down the average cost per person for health care, idiot. One way to do that is to bring everyone into the insurance pool and into a primary and preventative care. Only corporatist centrists (who would hate for average voters to get the idea that government could work for them) and brain-dead wingers think the answer is to deny 40 million people health care coverage and let them go bankrupt and die if they get sick. And since any HC reform has to be deficit neutral, all those expensive, unnecessary hospitalizations, ruined lives and the resulting dead (45,000 a year), plus all of the economic costs, are sacrificed for nothing except the greed of our corporate masters and the sociopathic disorders of right wing nutjobs like you.
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shepherdung:
Or the other way to do as the brain-impaired liberals want to do is raise premiums to everyone, not cover all, raise taxes on everyone, incresase the deficit and cut services so the same amount die. But heck the libs will feel moraly superior for having done something.
Drive the country to 3rd world status, who cares
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"Drive the country to 3rd world status, who cares"
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Not you, that's for sure. We already have the most expensive 3rd world health care system on the planet and you're either too stupid and brainwashed to know it or you just don't give a sh*t, at least compared to your hatred of liberals and government of the people by the people and for the people.
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Thanks, KT for this. Can we raise $50,001 to buy a different economist – in addition to forming our own K-PAC HC lobby for real people? I'm sorry NOT to have my usual long list of unanswerable questions for you today, but I'd like to see the WH (or anyone) stress that by reigning in HC costs for employers they can start hiring again already and generate a real recovery. Certainly many are stuck in jobs over HC insurance alone. YOU would know more about rising costs here than me, but costs burdens are everywhere – good example about cobra changes here – http://boss.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/16/how-the-stimulus-package-actually-discourages-hiring/
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(OT, but is today Jay's birthday? read this from her tweets, and sorry for missing last “1000 words”, had logged out early friday / skipped weekend) -
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Can we raise 50 gs to induce Obama to hire a diff WHCOS? Or, let's be serious, 50 mil.
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Karen you might have a busy weekend if the Republicans decide to have the Health Care bill read.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/67905-sen-harkin-says-senate-will-work-weekends-in-december
Do you think this might be warming up for the real thing?
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First, can't we have an intelligent exchange of ideas on the subject of HCR, without all the personal invectives from both sides of the political aisle??
Second, if we could cut off the $$ spigot filling the $$ trough on both left and ride side politicians, then maybe a bill could be devised that would incorporate the good ideas from both left and right.
One that would provide portability across state lines, but with regulations preventing insurance companies from moving to the state with the least regulations.
A bill that would require reimbursements based on results, not just services provided. That would do away with denying coverage based on preexisting conditions. That would require universal coverage.
And most importantly, would provide a robust public option. That is the only way that insurance companies are going to be forced to bring their premiums in at more reasonable levels, through being forced to compete. There is absolutely no reason to believe that a public option will drive insurance companies out of business. That is a bunch of bs. Insurance companies will still make very healthy profits, simply by the inclusion of millions of new clients.
And if HCR is to be democratically debated, than the dems should grow a small set and force the hand of those who threaten a filibuster. Make them do it. Bring in the cots and the depends and the coffee.
Maybe then politicians will realize that the vast majority of the American people want an up or down vote on HCR, not the constant bickering and arguing.
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KT, given Rahm's, um, less than truthful statements about what the Bush Administration left Obama on Afghanistan, is it really appropriate to give him a forum to bash others' principles? And we can look back at Rahm's handling of the Foley affair . . . . he certainly didn't show many scruples there, did he?
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