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Well, actually, it's more than a column. A profile of Hillary Clinton, with whom I was traveling the past week.

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    Power has drifted from State to the National Security Council and the Pentagon, especially in wartime.

    ...Which is all the time.
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    Maybe we could, you know, end a war or two, and then we'd have a necessary reevaluation of State's role in foreign policy, perhaps culminating in a return to diplomacy as the primary tool of US interest.
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    Or we could count on Chris Mattews and circus to elevate State through "constant speculation" and exploitation of the "walking headline", so that "Her very presence in the job makes it crucial once more."
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    Which way sounds best for State, or best for US interests, Joe Klein?

    "she is an international celebrity with he ability — second only to the President's — to change negative attitudes about the U.S. abroad."

    Second only to the guy who can do the right thing and pull the plug on perpetual wartime, which is the primary reason for negative attitudes toward us.
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    Perhaps the world isn't so obsessed with celebrity and constant speculation as the Village press darlings, Joe Klein, and therefore require more than the very presence of Hillary Clinton, don't you think?

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    Joe: I came away from this piece asking myself: " Who sets the expectations?" Why is it that a US SOS, or President must always "win" in an exchange. We are at a point at which our leadership on major interbational issues is open top serious questions.

    It is instructive that our SOS was asked (and answered) questions from people outside the Military Establishment in Pakistan.

    And, of course, that old chestnut comes up again and again: who is in charge: the President? the National Security Adviser or the SOS. If we assume a monocentric theory then the President is the one. Perhaps that is why we have made little headway in our international relations. There are simply too many centers of power in Washington. And I haven't even mentioned the Senate or our ambassador to the UN who reports to the White House!!!

    State will always have a problem with the Presidency and the NSC it's in the genes.

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    Joe Klein:
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    Sorry, something else just occurred to me:

    President Barack Obama had softened his language on the settlements a few weeks earlier: instead of a total freeze, he had talked about Israeli "restraint" in settlement-building. And now Clinton seemed to cement the Administration's retreat...

    Why?
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    Lost in all of this profile-ery was a two sentence maximum description of what development caused the Obama Administration to run away from its perfectly legitimate, eminently reasonable position on settlements --the position that the rest of the world holds, the position most consistent with US ideals and diplomatic interests.
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    So? What happened?
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    Why did the President fold, and Sec State "retreat"? From what vicious, omnipotent onslaught was the great power of the United States forced to tiptoe away?
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    Thanks so much in advance for clarifying, Joe Klein.

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      "President Barack Obama had softened his language on the settlements a few weeks earlier: instead of a total freeze, he had talked about Israeli "restraint" in settlement-building. And now Clinton seemed to cement the Administration's retreat"

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      This seems to be a pattern with Obama. He comes out, gives a firery speech about something, then quickly "softens" and walks away.
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      I personally would like to know why Joe neglects to discuss or talk about the largest shipment of arms and weapons ever confiscated by the Israelis off of their coastal waters. The arms and weapons clearly marked with Iranian stamps.
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      Why is that Joe? Why do you continue to succumb to the party line talking points, and do not ask the more tough questions of our Secretary of State and get her opinion of why the Iranians continue to provoke terrorism and violence?

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      Joe Klein:

      Further down in the profile is the news that Israel's foreign minister won't even discuss East Jerusalem with George Mitchell. This is an outrage and an embarrassment.
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      What the Israelis are proposing--in effect, more illegal settlements in East Jerusalem--would be the same as Russia proposing peace with Georgia, if it could take over Tblisi.

      First, thank you so very much for responding to commentary --mine or any other of the serious, crowd-sourced, amateur analysts and fact-checkers here-- with that helpful clarification.
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      Second, I believe that analogy of yours to Tblisi is shrewdly apt. Well put. It is indeed an embarrassment for the United States to be so closely associated with such a position.
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      Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be the willingness (or maybe creativity?) put forward by this Administration to either sanction or counter such obvious bellicosity, and so our national reputation, moral force and goodwill reserves are stained, subverted and squandered once again for no gain.
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      I look forward to more in the way of news on these developments, accompanied by realist, objective analysis.
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      Thanks so much for this reporting, Joe Klein.

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      Like stuart says, thanks for responding Joe to our comments.
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      With that said, I agree that settlements in Israel are a sticking point that must be addressed and continue to be part of the negotiations between Israel and Palestinians.
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      However, with the talks that Iran is now engaging in with the US, more specifically with the DOS and Hillary Clinton, a harder line should be taken due to the actions, not their words.
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      When is Hillary going to call Iran's "dithering", and give them deadlines? Appeasement diplomacy does not work with radicals like those in Iran. We need to show support to those people in Iran who are willing to stick their necks out and risk their lives to confront their own Government. Obama is making a big mistake in not taking a harder line on Iran's recent actions.

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      Rustydog:

      Why do you continue to succumb to the party line talking points, and do not ask the more tough questions of our Secretary of State and get her opinion of why the Iranians continue to provoke terrorism and violence?

      Perhaps because we don't have enough moral authority anymore to bluster about how other nations are abetting international violence, since we're occupying two countries.
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      Can't you see that this sort of self-justifying, nonsensical victimhood drag costume worn by the United States in the international public just makes us look like ridiculous fools or liars...or both?
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      It's just not as important as the primary issue, Rustydog.
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      Imagine the leverage we would have internationally over the Iranians if we were to have successfully brokered a peaceful solution to the Palestinian question.
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      Imagine how our reputation could be restored, and so real efforts to thwart the processes of terror that require international cooperation could actually get somewhere.
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      Imagine what we could do in terms of leadership if we were recognized as a force for peace, and not the dangerous idiots who invaded the wrong country (and occupied it for ten years, alternately killing and bribing various violent extremists) after airplanes were flown into our buildings.
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      Jesus Christ, Rustydog...Don't you see that the solutions to these problems doesn't consist of more of us jumping up and down in the international arena, pointing and yelling "...But look at them! They're Bad People! Look! Violence! Terrorism!" -- that people around the world look at us like we're stupid, crazy or malignant, and calmly ask us questions right back like "Didn't you guys invade a country that didn't attack you? Didn't al-Qaeda move in after you were supposed to be guarding the place? Who are you to talk about 'provoking terror and violence'? No, really, who are you?
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      This isn't about making ourselves feel good, Rustydog, it's about realism and solutions being introduced into our foreign policy for a f-ing change.

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      "This isn't about making ourselves feel good, Rustydog, it's about realism and solutions being introduced into our foreign policy for a f-ing change."

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      Well maybe you can understand this analogy stuart.
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      A rather big but quiet kid on the school yard goes about the everyday pleasure of playing with the other kids on the playground.
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      Then a scrawny, but bully comes up to the big kid and intimadates him. The big kid simply cowers away, and goes inside.
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      In your world, you would want the big kid to "talk" to the scrawny bully and "ask him nicely" not to do those things anymore. Ask the scrawny kid to simply stop intimadating the other smaller kids and himself. To "rationally" think about what his actions of intimadation on the school yard is doing to the majority of the kids on the playground.
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      In that senario and in the real world of foreign diplomacy, those little kids simply want the big kid to wack the scrawny kid upside the head. To say "hey bully, stop it or I will knock your front teeth out".
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      When the big kid cowers and attempts appeasement with the scrawny bully, all he gets back is more teasing and taunting. Respect from the smaller kids watching join in on the laughter that the scrawny bully is now doing.
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      There are two distinct countries of the world today that have "scrawny bullies". Iran and North Korea. Both are intimadating the US, every chance they can get. While Obama's appeasement, and "down with the US, the bad bad country it has been in the past" rhetoric will simply elicit more laughter, snickers under the breath of the other little countries of the world.
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      The US IS the world's sole super power. We are the big kid on the playground. It's time for Obama to pitch his current foreign policy, and act like the President of the greatest, most powerful country that has ever been seen before.
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      Screw your "feel good" policy. I want my President to look them straight in the eye with a very serious affect on his face and say, "enough is enough". "Stop it now or suffer the consequences".

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      Rustydog:
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      Amongst all the parts of that analogy that are inapt, this one stands out the most to me:

      Then a scrawny, but bully comes up to the big kid and intimadates him. The big kid simply cowers away, and goes inside.

      Presumably you mean the "big kid" to be the United States of America, which has a $651 billion defense budget for 2009 (link here ) , and the "scrawny bully" is meant to be Iran, which has a $7.3 billion defense budget for 2006 ( link here ).
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      See what I mean about realism, Rustydog?
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      Who do you think is intimidated by whom, here?
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      Who is cowering?
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      You? Neo-conservatives?
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      You seem to have this bizarre outlook on who we are as a nation, Rustydog, as if you somehow believe that the United States is in Israel's situation, and really could be worried about a potentially hegemonic Iran.
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      We are "the world's sole super power", and we should act like it, which means not worrying about whether somebody else points at us and yells "Scaredy-cat! Scaredy-cat!" until we do something predictable and stupid (so they can take advantage).
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      Who the f*ck do we have to prove anything to about our might?
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      Who the f*ck are we intimidated by?
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      Nobody believes this. There is no contingent of nations in the world that rationally considers the United States to be intimidated by Iran --that's why it's so ridiculous, and we have lost so much international credibility.
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      You've got a strange fantasy going on in your head about who is perceived internationally to be dangerous, and who is really frightened. We are the ones the rest of the world thinks is an intimidating, dangerous, unpredictable, sometimes irrational destroyer.
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      You need to quit imagining that we're somehow in Israeli shoes, and get reacquainted with the fact of our power and confidence, Rustydog. We're confident. Hillary Clinton is obviously confident. Come on, we're America, for God's sake! We've probably got nuclear f-ing submarines cruising the Straight of Hormuz right this very minute! Who do you think we are?
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      It's you that doesn't sound confident in our capabilities, dude. It's you that sounds intimidated.
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      Who did this to you, Rustydog? Who turned you into such a frightened person? Who took away your rational confidence in America's power to defend itself and our interests? Dick Cheney? Giuliani? al-Qaeda? Who?

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    This comment is a repost based on responses to a comment I made on a previous article here on “Swampland”:

    It is an outrage that on a site such as this one, the editors like Klein, Scherer, Newton Small and others continue to post and write as though there is nothing that can be done to investigate the veracity of my remarks.

    Technology crimes are a growing scourge and “Shabazz” and “Eve Sharon Moore” use this medium to violently and viciously track, stalk and rob inncoent women and children. Their aliases on this site include StaurtSzechman, Palininatowel, 53_3, “DeeinColumbia”, “FreeinPA”, “RustyReturns”, Deconstructiva, Paulnot theotherone etc. etc. They have a myriad of aliases on here. They activate old aliases of other people on this wordpress hosted site and blitz innocent law abiding citizens like me in fear that journalists and readers of this blog will take an interest in my statements, investigate and out them. They are THUGS and are probably PEDOPHILES.

    Technology crimes are a growing scourge and remain largely unreported however the consequences of crimes committed by these felons who frequent this site are MEASURABLE and REAL.

    Surely Klien, Scherer and JNS, while your job is to write on politics, when a woman (me) on your site repeatedly and categorically identifies BLACK CRIMINALS and criminal activity being committed against her by two individuals on your site using a myriad of aliases on your word press hosted blog, some strong effort should be made to examine in detail the activities of these Predators, thieves, molesters and probable pedophiles whom I repeatedly identify on numerous comments.

    I think it is truly wrong for journalists to do nothing about a continuing request that “Akbar Shabazz” and “Shay Riley” of the website SCAM “Project 21” and the SCAM “Black Female Interracial Marriage BLOG” who are stalkers, desperate criminals and felons be investigated and their acts reported. They can be viewed on the site http://www.akbarshabazz.com

    When I make remarks on this felons it is directed at the writers of Time Magazine. There has to be a time when a journalist steps out if his box and does something ethical and needed and this is one such time.

    “Eve Sharon Moore” and her husband “Akbar Shabazz” run numerous organizations and bilk the unwitting public of funds. The organizations are replete with fabricated officers such as David Almasi of “Project 21” the so called White man who heads this so called “Black Conservative organization” does not exist despite the extensive history available for him online including a face book page with pictures used.

    Shabazz is a NIGERIAN FRAUDSTER and his wife is the same. Through the use of illegal wiretaps, activation of phones as roving devices, thefts of the work of other journalists and robbery of other unassuming targets, these felons continue to rob misrepresent and roam free. Their continued freedom and the fact that these facts which I frequently report have not been investigated by the esteemed journalists on this site is an embarrassment to what is just, humane and proper.

    I will keep reading the articles on this blog because I have great respect for the esteemed reporters who write here however, I must add that I am truly disappointed at the lack of humanity which follows my statements about crimes being committed against my family and I by criminals who frequent this site commenting with great aplomb. This state of affairs can be addressed by doing some indepth and vigorous investigative journalism to determine the veracity of the facts I state here.

    As a last example “Eve Sharon Moore” was interviewed by the Associated Press for an article in 2007 based on her claims to be interracially married-she is not and uses the lives of other bonafide interracially married women like me as fodder for her numerous blogs and inauthentic publications—books based on a fabricated marriage to a White man “Darren” meanwhile her husband is a Black Nigerian criminal who brutally and violently stalks and molests innocent women and their children.

    I hope this matter will be reviewed and addressed by someone in the elite media who decides to do the right thing in this matter. An investigation of the facts which I repeatedly state here and elsewhere about the felons who violently and brutally attack my family and I, these same felons frequent this site under their numerous aliases and an investigative investigation of these felons for the sake of my family and the information of the general public, is all I request.

    LM

    http://theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/2009/10/31/criminals-use-technology-to-trackrape-and-kill-innocent-people/

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      I registered just to say:

      Have you lost your mind? Actually, you go girl!

      Now let the games begin?

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    Interesting column Joe Klein and thanks for responding to the comments.

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    Jiminy Crickets...all this...on a Thursday, even!

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    "We were sitting in her hotel suite the day after her Jerusalem gaffe, the Secretary in an electric-blue shift rather than her usual formal jacket and pants. She was wearing glasses and appeared rather freckly without her makeup. "I guess that trip has animated and informed everything I've done since," she said. She emerged from the trip reinvigorated, with a new mission. By the end of 1995, at the U.N. Conference on Women in Beijing, the First Lady had propounded a new Clinton Doctrine: 'Women's rights are human rights.' "
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    What century do you live in, Joe?
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    Did the "electric-blue shift" make her look fat? Just askin'...

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    Joe, from your article:
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    "The Palestinians are weak and divided."
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    So, perhaps it may have been more prudent to negotiate with a united Palastinian Authority while there leader was...alive? Any comment on this US policy?
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    "The Israelis have been difficult, as always: whenever Mitchell raises East Jerusalem in talks with the Israeli Foreign Minister, the Israeli stands up and walks out of the room."
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    How many Billions of Dollars to we give this country every year so that they can treat us this way? Can we take away their cell phone? Turn off text messaging, at least? That'll learn 'em!

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    "There is also a growing sense that the President's inexperience is beginning to show..."
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    No other President in recent memory has given a rat's @$$ about foreign policy until their 7th year in office. If Obama had done nothing to help promote peace and the US's interests abroad, you would have expended fewer words in this article.
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    The previous President, in your words, "...turned over American foreign policy to the Israelis."
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    If we agree that this was bad, can we give the new strategy a chance to work?

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