Does Focus on the Family Fund Abortions?
It does if you hold the organization to the same standard it uses to insist that health reform would result in publicly funded abortions.
A few weeks ago, I wrote about the fungibility argument that many pro-life groups and politicians have employed to oppose health reform. The problem, they say, is that if any insurance plan that covers abortion is allowed to participate in a public exchange, then premiums paid to that plan in the form of taxpayer-funded subsidies help support that abortion coverage even if individual abortion procedures are paid for out of a separate pool of privately-paid premium dollars. You can debate about whether it makes sense to use this strict standard, but that's the argument.
But are those pro-life organizations holding themselves to the same strict standard? As it happens, Focus on the Family provides its employees health insurance through Principal, an insurance company that covers "abortion services." A Focus spokeswoman confirmed the fact that the organization pays premiums to Principal, but declined to comment on whether that amounts to an indirect funding of abortion.
Even if the specific plan Focus uses for its employees doesn't include abortion coverage--and I'm assuming it doesn't--the organization and its employees still pay premiums to a company that funds abortions. If health reform proposals have a fungibility problem, then Focus does as well. And if they don't think they do have a fungibility problem, then it would be interesting to hear why they think the set-up proposed in health reform legislation is so untenable.
(By the way, I'm not trying to pick on Focus on the Family, which has opposed congressional health reform proposals but certainly hasn't been the only or leading organization involved. I suspect many of the groups denouncing health reform as funding abortion have the same issue with their own insurance plans. Focus was just the only group willing to call me back and confirm its insurance coverage.)
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Thank you very much for this intelligent, fact-based, link-filled, on-the-record-sourced, suspicions-clearly-labeled-as-such report, Amy Sullivan.
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That I may or may not disagree with your analysis, or may or may not find this to be a terribly high priority news item in terms of the current debate does not take away from the decent quality of your piece.-
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...you're praising Amy? For real?
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I'm guessing the style and not the content.
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I'm going to Focus on the Family headquarters to protest their support for abortion funders!
Betrayal!
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So what? First of all, there's a difference between tax dollars/forced contributions and voluntary actions by private actors, so the "strict standard" (pretty loaded) is arguably important here. Second of all, they may pick these guys because they feel it gives their employees the best coverage. They take the market as they find it, whereas the government creates the fungibility.
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Amy, cover the Scientology verdict. You're just shilling here.-
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spob,
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How do you feel about your tax dollars going to support a drug dealer? -
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How I feel about that, and those are loaded questions, is distinct from the issue being raised here. You guys want abortions funded by the feds, fine, get the votes. I don't think there's a constitutional argument against it, or at least not a very good one. But what Amy's trying to do here is dismiss the idea that taxes/mandatory contributions shouldn't indirectly support abortions because an organization, faced with having to choose providers may have to live with certain things given the reality of the market. Am I a hypocrite because I hate Bill Maher, but watch HBO?
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spob,
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What Amy does here is play the same game Glenn Beck plays every night. That's how we end up at "Obama = Hitler."
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It's inane in pretty much all cases. -
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So to conclude, since you refuse to provide an answer (read: birth certificate), you must be in favor of publicly-funding drug dealers (read: been born in Kenya and not eligible for the presidency).
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You're absolutely correct. There is a difference between the government, which holds that abortions are legal in this country, inadvertantly funding abortions through indirect means and a private advocacy group whose primary function is to oppose abortion in any form CHOOSING to give money to a company that funds abortions.
There is a huge difference here. Thank you for pointing that out.
This is precisely the sort of thing the media needs to do more of. It's complete hypocrisy and goes to the root of the problem. If it's not a big enough issue for the advocacy group itself to prevent their own money from going to pay for abortions (which is donated by people who advocate the same views and don't want their money funding abortions either!), then how can they hold anyone else to that standard?
I would think a non-profit charity has a fiduciary obligation to report to their donors that donated funds are being used to indirectly pay for abortions.
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I have no problem picking on Focus on the Family. Their argument is clearly just a pretext for opposing health care reform, per se.
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... which they do because they are part of the GOP. Organizations that actually care about the well-being of human families, such as Families USA, support health care reform, of course, because it is those with eyes can see that the current situation is a moral catastrophe.
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But hey, any lie you can tell in the service of partisan gain is sure way more important than making families' lives better, right, James Dobson?
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Grow up Amy!
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This kind of gotcha stuff makes me crazy.
This is not about abortion, funding abortion, fungibility of premiums. Getting into the argument at this level validates the ludicrous positions taken by anti-choice groups.
If they really were concerned about abortion they'd be doing fundraising to subsidize norplant or other contraceptives for poor young women.
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If they really were concerned about abortion they'd be doing fundraising to subsidize norplant or other contraceptives for poor young women.
But that would be promoting sex outside of marriage!
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queencersei,
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If you're a God-fearing Christian, you don't have sex outside marriage! So that's not a problem. -
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Unless you are Ted Haggart, or Jimmy Swaggart or...oh the hell with it!
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or Bristol Palin
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Good job reporting on the double-speak and double-standards of the so-called "Christian" organizations.
Until the anti-choicers see that there are more effective ways to reduce the number of abortions I'm sure we'll see more hypocrisy and less intelligence.
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Given the fact that Obama is a militant enthusiast of killing infants who have survived abortions (http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/02/links_to_barack.html), does this Principal insurance company pay its abortionists extra for killing such infants who have survived attempted abortions (i.e., killings)? Does the Democrats' so-called "health care" plan (talk about a vile euphemism ...)?
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Try this link demonstrating Obama's fealty to his most holy religious sacraments (i.e., infanticide and abortion): http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/02/links_to_barack.html
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textee,
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I have an actual photo of Obama eating a small, white baby. I'd send it to you, but I think I may sell it to The Star or the National Enquirer. -
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palininatowel: Our local supermarket has boxes of stuff called "Fetus Helper" prominently displayed right next to Hamburger Helper. I think this is wrong. I urge everyone not to buy this product even though it looks tasty.
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Both Helpers are located next to the fava beans in my store. Chianti wine is on sale too, as are Mrs. Lovett's Frozen Meat Pies. My usual hamburger is specifically called “ground Chuck” – it used to be called “ground chuck”. Not good. I guess I picked a bad time to go on the Atkins diet.
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You are right textee, President Obama and most of his left-wing liberal friends support partial-birth aboritions. Killing babies that survive Aboritions is just a bad as the German killing Jews during world war II.
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As if Focus on the Family is truly concerned that it's being hypocritical, Amy.
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Amy I just don't know what to day about this post. On the one hand it is a very obvious example of the ludicrousy that masquerades as wingnut logic. While the birthers, tenthers, and all manner of wing nuttery continuously call anything that supports their position logic and no matter how logical something seems at first, if the argument can be used against them later then it should be ignored. On the other hand,if only more villagers could just do that simple task of asking them selves if they are helping the wingnuts to engage in a double standard, compare apples and oranges, or any other example of having one set of rules for themselves and a different standard for everyone else, maybe our world would like a lot differently. maybe it would look a lot better.
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My word, if there is any argument for abortions, reading any of your posts certainly provides it.
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I've been asked before if I was dropped on my head as a child. I've been told by family members that I was thrown.
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sacredh
At least you bounced.
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I'm not sure if I bounced or left a crater. I weighed 10 pounds when I was born. Even when I was in grade school my dad would shake me awake during the middle of the night yelling "You RUINED her!".
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I have two things I wanted to say regarding this story:
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3) "Fungible" is the funniest word in the English language.
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Thanks, Amy. You rock. Moral relativism may be a slippery slope, but those demanding absolute moral purity need to follow their standards absolutely, so kudos for pointing out this example. If nothing else, for once you've got your usual critics (not me) tied up in knots (or ribbons or handcuffs?).
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I've been giving Amy a break and feel that I'm a much better person for it. I have to admit, other than KT's "1000 Words", Amy's posts are the most fun.
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I agree. With health care dominating the topics here, it's also fun to note that Amy's main contributions to HC posts involve family planning and abortions …which all involve areas “down there”.
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Give us a thread on erectile dysfunction and watch us work it.
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Like many non profit orgaizations, Focus on the Family is actually self insured, therefore premiums go into their own fund. Principal is only the third party administrator of the plan, they are paid for that service. Amy should do her research.
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…she did. Amy's point is that while FotF opposes abortion without any middle ground, they do biz with a company that provides abortion services.
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Unwavering opposition to abortion is one thing. Getting a good deal is another. It's all about the benjamins.
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