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Snowe to Vote Yes on Finance Bill

Republican Olympia Snowe just indicated in her closing statement that she plans to vote yes on the Senate Finance Committee's health reform bill. Her vote is probably not necessary for passage - Democrats hold 13 of 23 seats on the committee - but her support could be crucial to getting a bill passed on the Senate floor. Democratic Senator Ben Nelson, for instance, has said he won't vote for a completely partisan bill, so Snowe's support lends a sliver of bipartisanship to the legislation. In explaining her vote before the committee, here's some of what Snowe said:

"As we contemplate action today…we should contemplate the decades on inaction…[the status quo is] really akin to the Titanic and turning the Titanic around before it hits the iceberg…The American people intuitively understand this issue is not only complex, it's costly….Given the enormity of the task, we should give it time…

Is this bill all that I would want? Far from it…But when history calls, history calls…There are many many miles to go in this legislative journey…My vote today is my vote today. It doesn't forecast what it will be tomorrow."

Baucus gave Snowe a wide smile when she finished and commended her eloquence.

(And now the committee is singing Happy Birthday to Democratic committee member Senator Maria Cantwell.)

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  • 1

    "Snowe's support lends a sliver of bipartisanship to the legislation"
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    In the same way that adding 1 part cream, to 50 parts milk, makes the result a half and half.

  • 2

    Suppose she votes NO?
    We have waited over 200 years for it. What the rush?

    • 2.1

      Exactly. The people have waited way too long for us. Its time to get it done once and for all.

  • 3

    Just one of the many rinos who will be voted out in 2010.

    • 3.1

      You don't know Maine very well do you? She she gets voted out, very unlikely, she'll be replaced by a Democrat.

    • 3.2

      2thirdsrocks ,

      You not only don't know Maine very well, you also don't know politics very well, or how to read a calendar. Snowe won in 2006 (with 74% of the vote), which means it is IMPOSSIBLE for her to be voted out in 2010. I personally wouldn't bet on her losing in 2012, but at least she will be on the ballot then. Please do not make silly comments, it just wastes my time.

    • 3.3

      Because she voted for health care reform?

      That's funny...unless of course, you're saying the Republicans are even dumber than first thought.

      Is that it?

    • 3.4

      Aw jeez mfbattle you sure nailed me on that one. We've got 100 senators and I got mixed up on one. High 5 on your ability to split hairs. Not that I give a rats behind whether I waste your time or not.

    • 3.5

      Knowing some basic facts is not spliting hairs.

    • 3.6

      Please keep voting out the rinos. Then, when the theocratic wingers only have 30 seats, they can be safely marginalized.

  • 4

    Kate Pickert:

    Democratic Senator Ben Nelson, for instance, has said he won't vote for a completely partisan bill...

    Why?
    .
    What is the reason he gives for this decision?
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    What is the reason that knowledgeable Beltway insiders such as yourself would posit?
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    Why is Nelson's support for a bill dependent upon anyone in the opposing minority party voting for it, Kate Pickert?
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    Do you know the answer?

    • 4.1

      SCOTTSBLUFF, Neb. — Any attempt by Senate Democrats to pass health care legislation with no Republican support won't have the vote of Nebraska's senior senator.

      Sen. Ben Nelson, a Democrat, said Sunday that he would vote against using a tactic called reconciliation to push through a health care bill.
      .
      http://www.omaha.com/article/20090928/NEWS01/709289928

    • 4.2

      Just to pile onto what Stuart said, the GOP is the least popular party this side of a NAMBLA summer picnic:
      http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/10/just-words.html
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      Why should anyone care what any of them think about anything?
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      Also, can anyone find a single example of any Republican ever saying, "let's not do this without Democratic support" during the era of Rove?

    • 4.3

      At least the NAMBLA summer picnic doesn't have an aunt problem.

    • 4.4

      Whoops, my link goes to the wrong thing. Well, somewhere out there on the Internets there's a thing about how support for Dems has softened, but support for the GOP hovers around 20%-- south even of the crazification factor.
      http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html

    • 4.5

      Elvis, I see it has occurred to you to that while the republicans are predicting huge gains in 2010 because support for the democrats has softened, they ignore the fact that support for their own party has fallen off the cliff. Reality will never play a part in their plans.

    • 4.6

      I think also that they get this false sense of importance by proudly sporting the viewership totals of the FOX programs. I've been pointing out that they have a serious viewer overlap problem there.
      .
      Now that something has been passed, they might just find themselves to be force of none.

  • 5

    The most important Senator in the health care debate has spoken! The bill has been officially blessed. It has accomplished it's most important goal -- Bipartisanship!

    It may also make minor, tepid, inadequate changes to the health care system -- but who cares about that if the bill's bipartisan? I'm sure the many people who remain uninsured and under insured will understand.

  • 6

    Healthcare reform needs a “Parody Option.” Check out “Healthcare Fighting (King Fu Mix)” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nc1VwJOb9Y

  • 7

    Olympia, you're going to get demonized by the nutters for being a traitor. Come over to the darkside. Do it on Halloween so your side can claim the devil made you do it.

    • 7.1

      You all don't need her, you already have us outnumbered by a large margin. Which begs the question: why is it taking so long to get this garbage passed?

    • 7.2

      Because the democrats are trying to get at least a little bipartisanship. Personally, I'm all for ramming through a plan with a strong public option and running over any republican that gets in the way. The republican party has no alternative plan and are working under the idea that any defeat for the President is a victory for them. The people without insurance aren't a factor for the republicans. It's what's best for their dying party that matters.

    • 7.3

      "You all don't need her, you already have us outnumbered by a large margin."
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      2/3rds of a nut:
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      On the FOX thread you crowed all about how numerous you guys are.
      .
      Can I recommend you up your dose? You seem to have problems tracking yourself...

    • 7.4

      So I ask you once again sacredh, what's taking so long?

    • 7.5

      See 7.2

  • 8

    Wow, it turns out that she *wants* to get reelected some day!

    • 8.1

      She's just playing the "I'm doing what's best for my constituents " thing. She's been in the Senate long enough to realize that party loyalty should always trump doing the right thing. I suspect heroin addiction.

  • 9

    "Democratic Senator Ben Nelson, for instance, has said he won't vote for a completely partisan bill, so Snowe's support lends a sliver of bipartisanship to the legislation.'
    .
    And just a sliver. By the way when did bipartisan come to mean just one vote from the other side?
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    Beside that Nelson in the article Paul linked to say at least 65 senators need to vote for it. 1 is a long way from 5 at this point.

  • 10

    It's just sad that the discussion here is about the impact of Olivia's vote on her: (1) Party's response, (2) how other Senators might vote based on its effect on partisanship, or (3) who will be out to get her, come election time.

    I Know I'm foolish, but I thought her vote was supposed be for the benefit of those who sent her to Washington. Where is the discussion of their position on the issue?

    • 10.1

      "I Know I'm foolish, but I thought her vote was supposed be for the benefit of those who sent her to Washington."
      .
      That is a good question for all the senators not just Snow. But for some reason it never seems to get asks by our esteemed press core. Not sure why though.

  • 11

    [...] (And now the committee is singing Happy Birthday to Democratic committee member Senator Maria Cantwell.) Read more: http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/10/13/snowe-to-vote-yes-on-finance-bill/#ixzz0Tq8FSpTn [...]

  • 12

    Wishful thinking might get you to believe that it may "snowe" next July. But it will not happen either.

  • 13

    The Republicn's only hope of taking back Congress is to disagree and refuse to allow Obama to do literally ANYTHING. That way they can run adds relating to how much he DIDN'T get done, versus how much he DID get done.

    They are the party of "NO" and the American people will remember it well.

  • 14

    I LOVE THE NEW BIPARTISANSHIP Obama's brought to DC!!!

    Seriously, it's time to revoke the 22nd Amendment.

  • 15

    They havn't repealed it yet!?!?
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    Damn, sacred..

  • 16

    ...sacred, do you live in a dry county? I hope not!

    • 16.1

      We have about an equal number of bars and churches in my area. The bars have larger and more faithful congregations.

    • 16.2

      "The bars have larger and more faithful congregations".
      .
      Amen to that!

    • 16.3

      ^ Good one apollyono7. I don't go to either. I think that in the last 10 years the only times I have been in a bar has been to pick up fish sandwiches on the way home from work.

  • 17

    Shouldn't be an "a" there.

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