Comments on: The Afghanistan Paradox http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/09/14/the-afghanistan-paradox/ A blog about politics. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:28:06 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: juniusredivivus http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/09/14/the-afghanistan-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-95948 juniusredivivus Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:56:18 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=16349#comment-95948 cfuk, I realize you don't usually read other people's comments, much less think through your responses, but this is not a matter of "interpretation". What is missing in the vacuous comments JNS offers on Rome are cold, hard facts. I want to believe that you would like facts to enter our discussion of matters at some point, but I find this belief increasingly hard to sustain when I read your latest bloviation. cfuk, I realize you don't usually read other people's comments, much less think through your responses, but this is not a matter of "interpretation". What is missing in the vacuous comments JNS offers on Rome are cold, hard facts. I want to believe that you would like facts to enter our discussion of matters at some point, but I find this belief increasingly hard to sustain when I read your latest bloviation.

]]> By: michaelfury http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/09/14/the-afghanistan-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-95815 michaelfury Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:52:39 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=16349#comment-95815 How many "boots on the ground" will it take to "clear and hold" this pipeline corridor? http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/the-gas-must-flow/ How many "boots on the ground" will it take to "clear and hold" this pipeline corridor?

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]]> By: michaelfury http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/09/14/the-afghanistan-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-95814 michaelfury Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:43:15 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=16349#comment-95814 “The momentum of Asia’s economic development is already generating massive pressures for the exploration and exploitation of new sources of energy and the Central Asian region and the Caspian Sea basin are known to contain reserves of natural gas and oil that dwarf those of Kuwait, the Gulf of Mexico, or the North Sea.” - Zbigniew Brzezinski, The Grand Chessboard, 1997 http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/the-ones-who-attacked-us/ “The momentum of Asia's economic development is already generating massive pressures for the exploration and exploitation of new sources of energy and the Central Asian region and the Caspian Sea basin are known to contain reserves of natural gas and oil that dwarf those of Kuwait, the Gulf of Mexico, or the North Sea.” - Zbigniew Brzezinski, The Grand Chessboard, 1997

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]]> By: emptysuit http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/09/14/the-afghanistan-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-95811 emptysuit Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:33:33 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=16349#comment-95811 Afghanistan is Obama's war, when he was running for president the knew we had troops in Afghanistan. If he didn't want to face problems in Afghanistan he shouldn't have ran for president. People act like this Afghanistan war was a surprise to Obama. They act like Obama had no idea of the conflict in Afghanistan, and try to add clarity by throwing Bush role in. Obama was a Senator, if he was a good Senator he would have been on top of the information about Afghanistan. During the election our MSM media refused to ask Obama any questions about Iraq and Afghanistan. They gave him a free ride on war issues. We were fighting two wars and no reporter dared to ask him his plans in detail. Because of that we have what you see now, Obama lost, keep silent, depend on MSM to continue to blame this on Bush. And Obama avoid this by moving his Healthcare chess queen to divert war issues. Last week Osama Bin Laden even calls Obama ‘Powerless’. The world sees the inexperienced leader for what he is....inexperienced. http://emptysuit.wordpress.com/ Afghanistan is Obama's war, when he was running for president the knew we had troops in Afghanistan. If he didn't want to face problems in Afghanistan he shouldn't have ran for president. People act like this Afghanistan war was a surprise to Obama. They act like Obama had no idea of the conflict in Afghanistan, and try to add clarity by throwing Bush role in. Obama was a Senator, if he was a good Senator he would have been on top of the information about Afghanistan. During the election our MSM media refused to ask Obama any questions about Iraq and Afghanistan. They gave him a free ride on war issues. We were fighting two wars and no reporter dared to ask him his plans in detail. Because of that we have what you see now, Obama lost, keep silent, depend on MSM to continue to blame this on Bush. And Obama avoid this by moving his Healthcare chess queen to divert war issues. Last week Osama Bin Laden even calls Obama ‘Powerless'. The world sees the inexperienced leader for what he is....inexperienced.

http://emptysuit.wordpress.com/

]]> By: stuartzechman http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/09/14/the-afghanistan-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-95758 stuartzechman Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:46:29 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=16349#comment-95758 cfukara: <blockquote>What did the aliens do with the real SZ?</blockquote> Apparently all of this time I've been an alias for lawyermommy's arch-nemesis "Eve Sharon Moore": <blockquote><i>I indicated on an earlier post that I frequently comment on “Swampland”. It is a political blog owned and run by Time magazine. This woman, “Eve Sharon Moore” has assumed so many personalities on that site in a desperate bid to create a presence in an attempt to thwart the scrutiny of her activities–which I frequently discuss on that site. Her aliases include stuartszechman, Piratewench, 53_3, Nathan777, Rusty etc etc. It is an incredibly long list of aliases created out of sheer desperation. There is no rest for criminals.</i></blockquote> along with many other commenters, as she indicates in her latest posts up at the Justice League of America's site: . <a href="http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:lktJcLMBRq0J:theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/+stuartzechman+swampland&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us" rel="nofollow">http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:lktJcLMBRq0J:theblindspotsofgod.wordpress.com/+stuartzechman+swampland&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us</a> cfukara:

What did the aliens do with the real SZ?

Apparently all of this time I've been an alias for lawyermommy's arch-nemesis "Eve Sharon Moore":

I indicated on an earlier post that I frequently comment on “Swampland”. It is a political blog owned and run by Time magazine. This woman, “Eve Sharon Moore” has assumed so many personalities on that site in a desperate bid to create a presence in an attempt to thwart the scrutiny of her activities–which I frequently discuss on that site. Her aliases include stuartszechman, Piratewench, 53_3, Nathan777, Rusty etc etc. It is an incredibly long list of aliases created out of sheer desperation. There is no rest for criminals.

along with many other commenters, as she indicates in her latest posts up at the Justice League of America's site:
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]]> By: cfukara http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/09/14/the-afghanistan-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-95751 cfukara Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:28:56 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=16349#comment-95751 OK. Next, SZ will show some respect for AS ... Hey, never say never! OK.
Next, SZ will show some respect for AS ...
Hey, never say never!

]]> By: cfukara http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/09/14/the-afghanistan-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-95750 cfukara Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:27:08 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=16349#comment-95750 <i>" ..Speaking as a historian, .."</i> As such you know well that there are interpretations of historical happenings - depending on who tells the story. What would be our view of WW2 had Hitler been victorious ... [Which reminds me: The other side wantonly kills civilians in Araq with human bomb carriers detonating bombs. We condemn them as cowards. Yet we do likewise. We, the invaders, kill even more civilians in Iraq - with manned aircraft carriers that drop bombs on the heads of unwary cave dwellers and unmanned drones that srafe huts in which children sleep and their mothers cower in terror. And we retain hired killers of various hues and persuasion practising in the field on live targets. History - written by us - stands to note that those on the other side are the villains, the terrorists ... .. ] " ..Speaking as a historian, .."

As such you know well that there are interpretations of historical happenings - depending on who tells the story.

What would be our view of WW2 had Hitler been victorious ...

[Which reminds me: The other side wantonly kills civilians in Araq with human bomb carriers detonating bombs. We condemn them as cowards.
Yet we do likewise.
We, the invaders, kill even more civilians in Iraq - with manned aircraft carriers that drop bombs on the heads of unwary cave dwellers and unmanned drones that srafe huts in which children sleep and their mothers cower in terror.
And we retain hired killers of various hues and persuasion practising in the field on live targets.

History - written by us - stands to note that those on the other side are the villains, the terrorists ... .. ]

]]> By: cfukara http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/09/14/the-afghanistan-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-95742 cfukara Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:03:50 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=16349#comment-95742 SZ? Is that you - and you have a nice word for JNS? No it can't be! What did the aliens do with the real SZ? [Or is JNS holding SZ by the ... eh, squeezing SZ hard where it hurts ... ] SZ?
Is that you - and you have a nice word for JNS?
No it can't be!
What did the aliens do with the real SZ?
[Or is JNS holding SZ by the ... eh, squeezing SZ hard where it hurts ... ]

]]> By: cfukara http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/09/14/the-afghanistan-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-95740 cfukara Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:58:45 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=16349#comment-95740 <i>" .. This is getting more and more fun each day! .."</i> He watches from nthe sidelines in amusement. Hey! Rusty can do a better job of this C-in-C thing. Step aside. " .. This is getting more and more fun each day! .."

He watches from nthe sidelines in amusement.
Hey! Rusty can do a better job of this C-in-C thing. Step aside.

]]> By: juniusredivivus http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/09/14/the-afghanistan-paradox/comment-page-1/#comment-95695 juniusredivivus Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:47:17 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=16349#comment-95695 <b>Rome fought nearly constant wars at its peak, though its denizens didn't mind the casualties so much because they came with plundered treasures (and most of the casualties weren't actually Roman).</b> . When in the roughly 2000 year history of Rome (753 BC to 1453 AD) do you consider to have been its peak? Which wars are you referring to? What casualties were incurred (specific numbers please) and how much treasure was plundered? Also, when you refer to denizens, could you explain how you concluded that they "didn't mind the casualties"? Or was this just a vague recollection of something Hannity said he thought Malkin talked about with Limbaugh during a teabagging session? . Speaking as a historian, I would point out that the Western Roman Empire collapsed in the fifth century AD, and much of the blame for this has been placed, by historians, on a constant cycle of wars, especially civil wars, loss of revenue due to loss of territory, and an elite that increasingly looked to its narrow, sectional interests, rather than considering the public good. Rome fought nearly constant wars at its peak, though its denizens didn't mind the casualties so much because they came with plundered treasures (and most of the casualties weren't actually Roman).
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When in the roughly 2000 year history of Rome (753 BC to 1453 AD) do you consider to have been its peak? Which wars are you referring to? What casualties were incurred (specific numbers please) and how much treasure was plundered? Also, when you refer to denizens, could you explain how you concluded that they "didn't mind the casualties"? Or was this just a vague recollection of something Hannity said he thought Malkin talked about with Limbaugh during a teabagging session?
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Speaking as a historian, I would point out that the Western Roman Empire collapsed in the fifth century AD, and much of the blame for this has been placed, by historians, on a constant cycle of wars, especially civil wars, loss of revenue due to loss of territory, and an elite that increasingly looked to its narrow, sectional interests, rather than considering the public good.

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