So Where's Osama?
A simple question for this horrific anniversary: If we've had so much success picking off Al Qaeda leaders with our Predator drones (and we have), and if we've been able to locate elusive sociopaths like Baitullah Mehsud and today's announced snatch of Muslim Khan by the Pakistanis...Why can't we seem to find the maximum leaders, Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zwahiri, as well as the Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Omar?
Is it possible that our Pakistani allies have been offering better intelligence cooperation when it comes to capturing Pakistani Taliban leaders (like Mehsud) than the AQ top guns or the Afghan Taliban? Just asking.
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Perhaps we should start looking at where the hijackers actually came from, Saudi Arabia.
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This points up a long-standing problem. We have lots of nifty technology yet we outsource most of our human intelligence. That's been true for 50 years.
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And why doesn't the FBI want him for 9/11?
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm
Better question: How did Osama get access to nano-thermite and penetrate WTC security?
http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/04/11/the-rest-is-silence/
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Whar be Osama?
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B'hind health care reform!
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Get 'im, boys, get 'im!
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I truly would not be surprised if Osama was found in Obama's Administration as the new "Czar" for peaceful renegotiations with Terrorists, PW.
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I mean seriously, the way the far left fringe is infiltrating this administration, how could you be surprised?
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Take for instance Cas Susteen, the acclaimed professor from Harvard. One of Obama's greatest friends in the world believes your dog or cat should have the right to sue you in a court of law if you do not buy them kibbles and bits!!
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Why is anyone concerned about bin Laden? Don't you people know that according to 61% of the Democrat party, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Halliburton, Blackwater, Diebold, Fox News and Exxon/Mobil were the chief conspirators of the 9/11 attacks? Just ask Van Jones and the rest of the Obama administration.
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Weren't you the one that shouted "you LIE!"?
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Thank you, President Obama, for keeping us from being attacked longer than your predecessor. I hope that if the system does start "blinking red" and your counter-terrorism experts are on "hair on fire" alert and you have multiple memos warning of the preparations for airplane hijackings that, unlike your predecessor, you will actually heed those warnings instead of ignoring them and doing nothing whatsoever to protect the country.
"No one could have anticipated" was a terrible excuse then and would be an even worse excuse now. I mean, sure, there was a credible threat of a hijacking attack on the July 2001 Geneva summit enough that the site was rung with anti-aircraft battery, but heck, who could have anticipated that terrorists would use planes as missiles to attack targets? http://www.pacificviews.org/weblog/archives/002207.html
Its a real good thing for George W Bush's legacy that he receives basically no blame from the media for allowing the worst terrorist attack in American history to go off without a hitch under his watch. I am not one of those people who holds him blameless.
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THe bigger question this anniversary brings up is why the Bush administration didn't protect us in the first place. Watching the NBC feed from eight years ago on MSNBC this morning, it was amazing to hear Tom Brokaw intone that 9/11 was the "biggest intelligence failure since Pearl Harbor." He's right...
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Maybe he's dead and no one's telling us. Seen a pic of him lately?
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.Well I see that the 9/11 truthers are visiting with us again today.
.piper1 says: "Thank you, President Obama, for keeping us from being attacked longer than your predecessor. I hope that if the system does start "blinking red" and your counter-terrorism experts are on "hair on fire" alert and you have multiple memos warning of the preparations for airplane hijackings that, unlike your predecessor, you will actually heed those warnings instead of ignoring them and doing nothing whatsoever to protect the country.
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Rather than speculating about the where-abouts of Bin Laden, Joe. Perhaps you could enlighten us on your thoughts about the recent photo taken of KSM by the ACLU, and posted on the Internet. How his likeness is eerily similar to Bin Laden.http://news.aol.com/article/the-point-911-anniversary-khalid-sheikh/665195
Photographs of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed at the Guantanamo Bay prison have spread quickly on Web sites that experts say al Qaeda uses to reach supporters. The pictures of the man who says he masterminded the 9/11 attacks were taken by the Red Cross in July and sent to his family. They are the first known photos of Mohammed since he was captured in Pakistan six years ago and terrorist researchers think they're being used to inspire attacks on the U.S.
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Perhaps you could also shed some light on the John Adams Project, Joe? I think your followers would appreciate your analysis as to why members of the ACLU are now hiding behind this “John Adams Project” and are taking pictures of CIA Agents, and showing them to the detainees, the captured terrorists at GITMO. Do you know about this Joe? Or, is this something that your favorite President, and his advisers are hiding from you.http://www.aclu.org/safefree/detention/johnadams.html
http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2009/09/john-adams-project-lawyer-confronted-by.html
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2155713/john_adams_project_exposes_cia_agents.html?cat=9
The John Adams Project is a joint effort by the ACLU and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers to locate, stalk, and photograph covert CIA agents and to show those photographs to terrorist detainees at Guantanamo Bay. The Justice Department is investigating the John Adams Project. It is a violation of federal law to identify covert CIA agents. An ACLU spokesperson justified the outing of covert CIA agents by claiming that they had been involved in the "torture" of Guantanamo terrorist detainees that ACLU lawyers are representing.
Could you look a little more into this for us Joe? Is this something that would fall under your expertise as the Swampland correspondent for terrorism and counter-terrorism?
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Rustydog, there's a pretty clear division between those (like piper1 and myself) who believe Bush was asleep at the wheel and the truthers who think Bush was deliberately complicit in the attacks. The two viewpoints are quite different, and your attempt to conflate them is either dishonest or asinine.
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It is not necessary to believe -- as textee sarcastically states -- that "George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Halliburton, Blackwater, Diebold, Fox News and Exxon/Mobil were the chief conspirators of the 9/11 attacks" in order to accept that many "facts" provided by the government, and largely accepted uncritically by the media, are nonsense.
The government lies. The government lied about 9/11. And when the government lies about 9/11 in little ways, people start to believe that large lies are possible as well.
Once the government tries to pass off b.s. like Mohammed Atta's passport miraculously flew out of an exploding jetliner to be found on the street below, it is not hard to believe that there are bigger lies.
In many cases, the government encourages wild conspiracy-mongering because they can disprove the wildest conspiracy theories and smear anyone else by association. This is how the Van Jones got attacked for asking such outrageous questions as Why haven't we learned the identities of the people who had made money (or tried to) hand over fist by trading on airline securities while New Yorkers were jumping to their deaths?
It is also why we continue to have unanswered questions about the Pentagon attack, despite the fact that there must have been dozens of security cameras capturing the aircraft's approach. One of two things is unquestionable true: (a) no conclusive video evidence of the attack has been released because it doesn't exist or (b) no conclusive video evidence of the attack has been released because the government wants to encourage wild speculation because it discredits, and distracts from, more provable malfeasance or nonfeasance by responsible government officials.
It sure was nice for the Bush administration to be able to dismiss legitimate questions about its treatment of the bin Laden family in the days after 9/11 as unsubstantiated conspiracy-mongering.
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I suppose for you, and Van Jones, the little FACT that 3 airplanes are now twisted pieces of metal in some locked away place, are not proof enough for you? That there are hundreds of people who were on those flights that fateful day on 9/11, and their families grieve for each and every day are DEAD.
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That media news cameras caught everything as it happened, and millions of Americans saw not one, but two planes crash into the Twin Towers. Where you doing drugs that day square? Where you high on crack as you watched it all un-fold on TeeVee before you very eyes?
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That eye witness accounts of each plane crashing into their eventual destinations are some how delusions in their minds. That NYFD and NYPD men and women who were fortunate to escape from the soon to crash Towers witnessed the carnage first hand are crazy.
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That radar technicians tracked each plane, and that those records clearly showed their flights on the radar screens.
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But, I guess when you are either on crack cocaine then and now, or you stopped taking your anti-psychotic medications, anything like you said is truly possible.
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But, simply reading this:
.It is also why we continue to have unanswered questions about the Pentagon attack, despite the fact that there must have been dozens of security cameras capturing the aircraft's approach. One of two things is unquestionable true: (a) no conclusive video evidence of the attack has been released because it doesn't exist or (b) no conclusive video evidence of the attack has been released because the government wants to encourage wild speculation because it discredits, and distracts from, more provable malfeasance or nonfeasance by responsible government officials.
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Were you doing drugs that day square? Were you high on crack as you watched it all un-fold on TeeVee before your very eyes?
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Finger fluck ups above, corrected.
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"So Where's Osama?"
I din't know.
JK, do you know where to find Ariel "SS" Sharon, the butcher of Sabra and Shatila ... -
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If we need to find Osama we need to be as resilient as possible. One important method is interrogation in the right way. Look at the example when we caught and killed Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi. We were focused because we did not want Al-Qaeda to take control of Iraq then. Are we focused at the moment to take Osama...? I do not think so. Our focus is more to take control of Afghanistan and not to let it run into the hands of the Taliban or Al-Qaeda.
The only intelligent information is from gathering information with the various tribes in Afghanistan and Pakistan. I do not think we have been aggressive enough on this issue. Its more of a stumble and react situation in Iraq.
Perhaps the newly created unit of interrogators by the Obama Adm should be sent to assist in the gathering of interlligence.
I still have hope one day we will catch him. Look at 'Carlos the Jackal,' his freedom ended in 1994 by the French!
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