RNC's Poor Form

" .. Does this slimy tactic concern you? .."

eh .. eh.. Dunno.

You betcha! GRR!
ARGGGH!

"slimy"?
Hey! Are you trying to push-pull me?

I've no' seen this poll, per'aps 'cause I be a democrat?
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Kind o' makes me think th' Republicans be usin' voter registration rolls t' discriminate ag'inst Democrats in receivin' their fair share allocation o' batsh*t crazy fear-mongerin' messagin' -an' incidentally - ag'inst pr'vidin' 'em th' opportunity t' easily blast their paranoid fantasies ri' out o' th' water.
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Th' fact tha' they be employin' th' very tactics they be ascribin' t' th' democrats...cognitive dissonantly priceless!
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yarr.

I'd suggest that any poll that starts out with "It has been suggested..." is very likely to be a push poll.

Actually “Question 1” asks “Do you believe the state of America's health care is in crisis”?

Personally I am not in the least offended by this “survey”. But if you read this Sen Feingold Survey
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I think you will find it too also implicates a “Crisis” in America's Healthcare. Is there a crisis, Michael?
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This seems to be the "Question #1" on most people's minds. But, is the Republican Party "survey" exploiting an issue by asking the question in #4? Yes.
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The Republican Party survey also included a letter from Michael Steele, who asks for donations to "combat" the Democrat Party's on-slaught of propaganda.
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I do not think that you can play down the out-rage in this video being expressed all across the country at this time.

Or, do you believe that all of the townhall meetings are being manipulated, Michael? Just like this questionaire is? I would also be curious as to your thoughts on that as well as you are curious about my thoughts on "Question #4".

"Everyone knows this is not true. Does this slimy tactic concern you?"
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Not so much, really. I'm not an idiot or a "conservative" so I know not to believe anything a Republican says (and, at this point, to presume that it's a lie) without checking the facts for myself.
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Though, obviously, you're completely wrong that "[e]veryone knows this is not true" [emphasis mine]. And the reason for that is described both above and below:

In fact, it is the media's behavior that has made this summer's madness inevitable. When they let the loudest yellers and most audacious liars drive the discourse, they guarantee that people who can't win on the merits will yell and lie. When they focus on politics rather than policy, they guarantee the public will remain in the dark about basic facts. When they repeat false claims, or treat them as he-said, she-said situations, they guarantee that those false claims will sway confused citizens. When they continue to give a platform to people who have a history of lying -- and assume those people are telling the truth this time -- they guarantee those people will continue to lie.
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As long as the media approach their jobs this way, we're going to see the same thing play out over and over again. And each time, the media will be shocked -- shocked -- that some people lie, and other people believe lies.

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200908210024

Does this slimy tactic concern you?

Yes. As does stuff like this.

I think it's about time we start using the word 'traitors' to describe people who are so dead-set on using fear and hatred to turn Americans against each other in this manner.

Some may think that the word has been overused in the context of foreign policy debate but I think it's been underused when discussing adherence to the Constitution or for that matter simple civil behavior.

I don't put anything past government. Nixon and Clinton with the IRS.
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And look at all the violations of the tax laws by politicians out in the open. Does the IRS go after them? No. But they'll come after me.

It is slimy and it is not surprising.

The fact that Republicans have to lie and scare the hell our of their constituents to ber relevant tells you all you need to know about their party.

Luckily for the Republicans, their core constituency is easily manipulated and frightened to the point where they won't try to find independent information to either verify or disprove some of the crazy claims.

I would like to understand how your mind works.
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No. No, Michael, you would not like to understand that.
And anyway, the more apt question would be how that particular mind is screwed up, and whether it got that way through nature, accident, or exposure to batsh!t.

The Michelle Bachmannization of the republican party accelerates.

It is ironic that Republicans fought for many years to stop insurance from having to cover mental health, and yet they are the ones that appear most likely to reap the benefits of affordable mental health treatment.
Oh, Michael Steele was classic on NPR this morning.

Don't take pafro's word for it.

Here's Michael!
http://tpmtv.talkingpointsmemo.com/?id=3291556&ref=fpblg

You know, until Michael posted the update from the RNC spokesperson, I thought maybe it was a hoax, not because I didn't think the RNC would stoop that low, but because I didn't think they would sign their name to it and add a fundraising plug to boot. "Inartfully worded" indeed. If by inartful Ms. Wright means the lies were not up to the RNC's usual standards of eloquence, then well, OK…

Just how stupid do you have to be to believe even a fraction of what the rnc is spewing? After reading that "survey" wouldn't the first question to yourself be why on earth would even the Democrats want something so horrible?

I guess folks with live brain cells would do their own research, but it's not looking like there's many of that kind on the rnc mailing lists these days.

Republicans can't govern worth a lick, but they're world class liars.

UPDATE: [Seven more Republican lies] - Katie Wright, a spokeswoman for the RNC.

Wow. Amazing how you guys trust politicians. You guys must not know how many many local governments work. Try getting a city contract in Chicago if you are a Republican.

"The idea, however, that anyone would use voter registration to determine health care allocation is a malicious fiction intended to disrupt the debate, not further it."
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Au contraire, Mr. Scherer. Government officials often leverage control over benefits to screw people. Whether it's Clinton and Nixon and the IRS, or Rod Blagojevich trying to get Chicago Tribune people fired.
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It's a legitimate political issue. For crying out loud, it is an open secret that tenure decisions are based on politics at, gasp, state universities. Is it really inconceivable that political pull and political animosity would never enter into a healthcare decision.
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And by the way. Didn't we just see, on the part of Democrats mostly, the attempt to use the power of the government to screw AIG people out of their bonuses? Please explain, Mr. Scherer, how that episode doesn't give you some pause.

"The idea, however, that anyone would use voter registration to determine health care allocation is a malicious fiction intended to disrupt the debate, not further it."
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And gee, don't we see all sorts of resources allocated on the basis of politics, e.g., transportation and other pork. Why would allocation of medical resources be sacrosanct?

Extremely off-topic; I apologize...
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To anyone optimistic enough to have believed that Obama could potentially be a fair broker of peace with regard to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, as I was until today, I must share this very disappointing revelation.
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I have just received a draft of the President's peace initiative, which was leaked to the International Middle East Media Center by Palestinian Legislator Hasan Khreisha.
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The plan includes the following:
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1. International presence in the Jordan Valley, Palestinian Plains area, and other areas in the West Bank.
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2. Annexing some parts of East Jerusalem to remain under Israeli control, while Muslim holy site would be under Arab control.
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3. All Palestinian factions would be dissolved and transformed into political parties.
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4. Large settlement blocs in the West Bank would remain under Israeli control, while negotiations would be conducted within three months of the plan agreement to discuss the future of smaller settlements.

9. Allowing an agreed upon number of refugees to return, and to be settled in the Plains area and other areas in the West Bank, particularly in the cities of Ramallah and Nablus. A special fund for supporting the refugees would also be established.
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10. Israel starts releasing the Palestinian political detainees immediately after the peace deal is signed. Three years would be allocated for the release of the detainees.
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This plan, in general consistency with US tradition, blatantly favors Israel and essentially demands nothing from them. With regard to the Palestinians, however, their state is to be stripped of airspace rights, denied the sovereign right to engage in military alliances, shrunken even more than it already has over the years by a legitimization of illegal Israeli settlements (in violation of the 4th Geneva Convention), infringed upon by more condoned Israeli military presence, coupled with huge portions of East Jerusalem annexed to Israel (in violation of the 1947 Partition Plan) and more military presence by way of international forces. This plan is despicably uneven. It is an insult to legitimate Palestinian aspirations for statehood. It will be rightfully rejected by the Palestinians. Yet the Israelis, who have already suggested that they will support this plan, will undoubtedly spin Palestinian rejection of this biased plan as obstruction to peace. The plan is made to make Palestinians reject it so as to further the propaganda that they reject peace. This plan is not peace, it is a continued system of subjugation, dependency, and injustice. Mr. Obama, I had such high hopes for your purported pursuit of decency in international affairs. You have failed miserably in this regard.

Oh Exiled, you miss the point. Obama is just being rolled by the Israelis.

I find it hilarious how Republicans are now suddenly pro-Privacy rights, especially considering how strongly they pushed through the Patriot Act and other such legislation.

It's almost sad seeing them scamper around in such perpetual fear, though. As if discrimination based on political affiliation would actually occur without billion-dollar lawsuits and Supreme Court rulings. You have to wonder what about their psychosis requires them to be afraid of everything.

Michael:

When will we see a Time story for general readership that directly addresses RNC falsehoods as a primary tactic in their opposition to health care reform?

[crickets]

That, by the way, is the single greatest driver in the shift of public opinion. Do your damn job.

I am concerned. MS forgot to use the standard form and show a bad example of "both sides" doing it.
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You call yourself a journalist?

I disagree. It's the Lyndon Laroucheization of the Republican Party.

With Republican Congresscritters endorsing the Larouchies' posters of President Obama with the Hitler moustache, it's becoming clear that the Republican message machine has been taken over by Lyndon Larouche. Two prime examples:

http://www.larouchepub.com/pr/2009/090821va_anti_life.html

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2009/3632house_no_imac.html

Right out of the Republican message machine.