Comments on: Lou Dobbs: Public Embarrassment

By: opey606

opey606 — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:56:54 +0000

Obama's Certified Copy of Registration of Birth in Kenya HAS SURFACED!

http://amadon606.wordpress.com/2009/08/02/obama-kenyan-birth-registration-surfaces/

By: william500

william500 — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:27:38 +0000

Lou Dobbs continues to make a fool of himself, of CNN and of Time Warner, which owns this blog and pays my salary. When Jim DeMint, the oh-so-conservative Senator from South Carolina, says that the Obama birth certificate isn't an issue, and when electronic copies of the birth certificate have been produced--and certified--by the state of Hawaii, one wonders why Dobbs keeps flogging this...and why CNN allows him to do it.Certainly, Dobbs has a right to say what he likes. Plenty of nutballs go on television--as guests--and say all sorts of stupid, meretricious things. (CNN has its share of odious guests, though--happily, to my eye--fewer than its competitors.) But when you give someone the authority of an hour-long show on the cable network that stands closer to actually being fair-and-balanced than any other, you have the right to expect some journalistic integrity...or you have the responsibility to call the show what it is, The Lou Dobbs Paranoid Crazy Conspiracy Hour. Maybe Mr. Dobbs likes to just hear himself talk, talk, talk. Maybe CNN and Time Warner are so desperate for ratings they will allow him to continue making a fool of himself so people will tune in. Maybe people like to make spurious comments of those over them without substantial proof to give the allusion of authority and intellect. Maybe if people would turn off their sets this sort of sleazy reporting would die an unnatural death.

By: joyousmn

joyousmn — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:35:28 +0000

Yes. Who gives a flying fyou where he was born? It's a complete distraction.

By: pirate wench (demwoman)

pirate wench (demwoman) — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:53:58 +0000

It don't matter where 'e were born!
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See item #7, an' th' conclusion!
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http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
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Natural-born citizen

Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

* Anyone born inside the United States *
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

By: sacredh

sacredh — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:08:43 +0000

Thanks guys. I'm glad you got a chuckle out of it.

By: ipfletch

ipfletch — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:31:37 +0000

It amazes me- TRULY amazes me - how many times the GOP can keep running the same playbook and still have it work. This 'proof of citizenship' BS is a prime example: get folks worked up over a detail that has no bearing whatsoever on any actual issue- just appeal to the simple-minded's most base, paranoid fears and not only will they come running, the other side will huff and puff as hard as they can to blow the house of straw down. It started with Nixon (hell, it's how he got elected-TWICE), continued through Reagan and was amped up to 11 with Dubya. They can keep playing these nickel-and-dime games forever, 'cause they know the other side will always take the bait. All they need to do is bide time until they find another hand-puppet to sit in the Oval and pack his (or her- Palin IS still out there, after all) cabinet with the Rove-trained faithful. It'd be nice to NOT have history repeat itself in 2011...it'd be nicer still for the current administration not to eff things up in the meantime, 'cause any old excuse will do.

By: abdullah69

abdullah69 — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:14:13 +0000

Has anyone else noticed that there are six times a day when Barack Obama is "unavailable for comment."? Now I am not saying he is a muslim or anything, but real Americans tweet constantly about their activities 24/7 and given he is so different from all prior Presidents then maybe he needs to explain what he does all day a little more comprehensively.

By: middlegirl

middlegirl — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:39:34 +0000

Andrew Sullivan admitted that he blogged a little hastily today. He's no birther.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/07/the-original-ctd-1.html

By: shepherdwong

shepherdwong — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:05:46 +0000

"State officials in Hawaii have once again checked and confirmed that President Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen..."

[Emphasis mine]. Very, very thin ice where you are standing.

By: sacredh

sacredh — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:15:03 +0000

It's been kind of lost in the shuffle, but Obama isn't even bothering to deny that he was born not wearing a flag pin.