Certified American
I just watched Brian Williams spend a precious five minutes of his evening newscast on the question of whether Barack Obama is actually American. Let me end the suspense: he is. There is a birth certificate. He was born in Hawaii. You knew that, right? But right-wing nutballs and media giants like Lou Dobbs--whose presence on CNN is a continuing, suppurating embarrassment to the Time Warner multiplex, of which this blog is a teeny-tiny denizen--continue to pound this dead mouse. (Of course, Dobbs has to find new rot to push since his old rot, his half-crazed, anti-illegal immigrant rants is less relevant these days--according to the NBC news tonight, illegal immigration is way down). Desperation ain't pretty when it comes in the form of plummeting Nielsons.
Let me tell you what this is all about: The President of the United States is named Barack Hussein Obama. He is the first chief executive of this grand and good nation not to be melanin-deprived. There are a fair number of frightened, ignorant, idiot white folks still prowling the streets. They listen to right-wing talk radio. They show up at Republican town meetings. They can not believe that a man named Barack Hussein Obama could actually have been elected President. I must admit, I relish their discomfort. But I wish they'd go away.
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Then ignore them already!
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They exist and are a noisy element of the right wingnut fringe. They're worth reporting on.
Rather than ignoring them -- do journalism. Report that what they are selling is snake oil (not 'he said, she said' reports). There's no ambiguity about this. Some are con men, some are gullible, and some are just plain nuts. They are flat earthers and they deserve exposure and public ridicule .
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“Report that what they are selling is snake oil (not 'he said, she said' reports).”
Amen to that. Need more of.
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You didn't mention that he was black Joe. Because that is the real problem here. John McCain was actually not born in this country. He was however born in a foreign country while his dad was serving our country. Not his fault, but if it was John Hussein McCain and he was black that would be a problem.
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Actually he did gunny -- I think that's what he meant by melanin deprived. But I wouldn't have minded if had been more direct and just say the words in big bold neon like letters -- Black Man in the white house Oh My!
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No one really pays any attention to these kooks. Besides Larry King, the blogosphere and Fox, of course...
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(sigh)…well, if we're gonna play, then let's stop this in its tracks…was Hawaii REALLY a state when HE was born? Or still its own kingdom? As Lovely Sarah pointed out, if you're not from AK or Rural America you're not a Real American[tm], so he doesn't count, right? Since McCain was born overseas, we should be serving President Palin!
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Is our Americas learning. No. We never had smarts. Never had it. Never will.
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not born in this country doesn't mean not natural born citizen . . . .
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She should know all about whether or not Hawaii is 'Real America'. After all, in her six year quest to earn a bachelors degree she went to college in Hawaii. Twice.
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this was meant to be a reply to deconstructiva's comment about Palin.
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...thanks, and I'd love to know what were Palin's grades before finally graduating from Idaho. Good point, though. Two tries and she still couldn't get a piece of paper from Hawaii? At least Obama has his first key piece of paper there. Whether or not the RW's bother to go to the state or county records, or hospital, and look is another matter, but I digress.
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http://media.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDgxNzY2YzZjYmFjNTBiZDQxYTNiZDVkMzdlMjM2Y2M=
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spob-before you buy the Bull S@#t at your bible the NRO/ Did you click on the link to the poll they cited?
Because the link where NRO says in this poll 35% of democrats believe Obama was born in Kenya actually goes to this poll from 2007.
"Democrats in America are evenly divided on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance. Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure.
Republicans reject that view and, by a 7-to-1 margin, say the President did not know in advance about the attacks. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 18% believe the President knew and 57% take the opposite view.
Overall, 22% of all voters believe the President knew about the attacks in advance. A slightly larger number, 29%, believe the CIA knew about the attacks in advance. White Americans are less likely than others to believe that either the President or the CIA knew about the attacks in advance. Young Americans are more likely than their elders to believe the President or the CIA knew about the attacks in advance.
However, just 8% of voters say the CIA was Very Truthful before the War in Iraq. Another 33% believe the CIA was Somewhat Truthful. Most, 52%, believe the CIA was Not Very Truthful or Not at All Truthful before the War.
Still, 57% have a favorable opinion of the CIA. Thirty-six percent (36%) have an unfavorable view.
Former CIA Director George Tenet doesn't fare so well. He is viewed favorably by 29% of voters and unfavorably by 49%.
Just 12% have followed news stories about Tenet's new book Very Closely. Another 29% have followed the stories Somewhat Closely. Fifty-six percent (56%) have not been following the news stories about Tenet.
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Now who is the hack? Joe, you or the NRO?
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spob gets pwned. Again.
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What??
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The point of the NRO post was that 35% dems believed GWB knew of 9/11 beforehand, yet the media didn't talk about that at all. But now, with Obama's place of birth an issue, the MSM is all over the truthers in the GOP?
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In any event, the problem seems to be that the birth certificate was issued upon a representation that he was born here, not that the hospital actually told the bureau of vital statistics that he was born here. I may be a little off on this because, quite frankly, until someone provides evidence that his mom was in Kenya when he was born, I am not going to pay attention to this.-
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/
Bin Laden determined to strike in US
I would have fired that dirty hippie Richard Clarke for trying to make me pay attention to this stuff as well.
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Spob-You are right on the NRO post, but how does that prove Joe is a hack?
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He's a "Certified American" . . .
Does that mean that the others making an issue out of this are "certifiable"?
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Ultimately, I think that the real endgame and goal for the Birthers is: President Nancy Pelosi.
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NOOOOOOOO!!!!
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Because, gunny, he's all up in arms about some white people, but was notably silent on the widely held Dem view that Bush knew about 9/11 in advance.
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http://www.zogby.com/news/readnews.cfm?ID=855
"The poll is the first of its kind conducted in America that surveys attitudes regarding US government complicity in the 9/11 tragedy. Despite the acute legal and political implications of this accusation, nearly 30% of registered Republicans and over 38% of those who described themselves as "very conservative" supported the claim."
Not just Dems, spongy.
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I've actually heard the most about this stuff from the Ron Paul fans. They are even more Republican than spob.
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Imagine what would happen if Barack Obama were proven to have been born in Kenya. Wow. That would be interesting.
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Irrelevant, as is much of what you blather on about.
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What about the two Hawaiian newspapers that reported Obama's birth? This was shown on Lou Dobb's own show by his fill-in host. Dobbs doesn't watch his own network.
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Here is the White House Press Corps Warning the White House Of "Increased Adversarial Tone" If They Aren't Nicer To the Press.
Print reporters in the White House press corps are seething at perceived slights against them by President Obama and his team. Many print journalists see their role being diminished as Obama and his aides seem to lavish attention on television anchors and reporters and on liberal bloggers,
Translation:
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHPgGDBMqAQ&hl=en&fs=1&]-
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Oh hey look everyone it's Chuck Todd.
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Oh wait no my mistake it's Dana Milbank.
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Be it almost no feedin' thursday yet, mateys;)?
Lord knows spongy were throwin' sh*t a' th' wall like a fiend tryin' t' get someone t' bite - looks like 'e were successful 'ere.
Ah, well - it be a thread about stupidity, so I be guessin' it be as good as any fer th' sponge...
Arrgh.
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Aye, Wenchy! A day at a time, a week at a time, an' we'll be starvin' the crinoids out o' the Swamp!
Arrrg!
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FATA$$ joe Klein..you clearly are not an objective journailist and are deeply entrenched with the loony left. You look like an idiot for pretending to be an objective journailist. Either join the obama administration like your fellow TIMEer Carney or write for KOS. You are an embaressment to TIME magazine and objective journalists. You sound like crazy Keith being obsessed and jealous of Billo's ratings when you rant about Bill Kristol. Even though KT is clearly a liberal..at least she tries to be objective
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http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2009/07/obamas-doj-obstructing-justice.html
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Perhaps Joe could blog about that.
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PW, your charming self, once again. Look, my point is that a hell of a lot of Dems believed that nonsense about Bush and 9/11, yet the MSM never really cared. Now because Obama's birth certificate was able to be obtained fraudulently (from what I know, all that was required was a statement that he was born in Hawai'i), the MSM is peddling a story trying to smear all republicans. Like I said, until someone says that Obama's mom was in Kenya giving birth, I don't wanna hear about it.-
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That would be because he did know. He'd been briefed. He just didn't care because that was Clinton's thing.
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piper, Zogby, need I say more
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What did they do their polling at a Michigan Militia convention? -
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lighten up grape crush, you really are stupid, aren't you?
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ohiolib, see you're here, don't forget, you got pwned on Sotomayor
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no he didn't
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Ye know, mateys, sometimes th' Constitution just no' be sufficient. Sometimes, we needs t' be goin' above an' beyond wha' th' Constitution be requirin'. Tha' pesky ol' Constitution - it were writ' up o'er 200 years ago, so it can't be expected t' be applied t'day wi'out some additional requirements above an' beyond wha' be stated in thar!
http://www.constitution.org/constit_.htm#con2.1.5
I mean, it were statin' ye needs t' be a natural-born citizen t' be President...they must o' been intendin' tha' some day we'd need t' be makin' adjustments an' forcin' certain people t' be provin', above an' beyond wha' th' Constitution be sayin', tha they be meetin' th' qualifications, ri'?
Th' Constitution, in th' eyes o' Conservatives, were just writ' fer tinkerin' wi', ri'?
So's ev'ry time some whack job be comin down th' pike wi' some crazy idea they be pullin' out o' their a$$es, we needs t' be adjustin' th' Constitution o' th' United States t' be satisfyin' 'em, ri'?
No?
Thar be strict constructionists?
Or be they situational strict constructionists?
Fancy tha'!
YARR!
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what are you yapping about PW?
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/07/mixed_messages_1.asp
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