McCain Unhinged

Welcome home. Excellent post. Agree completely. It is a new world, and the neo in neocon is old world. Have a good good sleep.

I'm just glad he's not the president. Egads.

JK: Welcome back and we're glad you made it safely. Thanks also for tearing into grandpa on one of your first posts. We sure dodged a bullet and a bimbo on November 4th. There are alot of people who aren't happy with Obama, but look at the alternative. Luckily for us, even his own party doesn't take him very seriously anymore. All the rest of us just wish he'd STFU and spend some of Cindy's beer money.

Welcome home Joe. Good post. If McCain and Scara would just learn that hystrionics do not get you far in the world perhaps they would STFU.

That reminds me. What's Randy Scheunemann up to these days?

I get cranky when my back is sore. Once I finish laying the new flagstones this evening, I should be ready to rip and tear. Look out. No more Mr. Nice Guy.

McCain's not the only one. Statement from Mike Pence. can' beliew the rule of law crap doesn't get him struck down.
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"Today I'm introducing a resolution that ... express its concern regarding the reported irregularities of the presidential election of 12 June, 2009. It will condemn the violence against demonstrators by pro-government militia in Tehran in the wake of the elections. It will affirm our belief in the universality of individual rights and the importance of democratic and fair elections. And lastly, and most importantly, it will express the support of the American people for all Iranian citizens who struggle for freedom, civil liberties and the protection of the rule of law."
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http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/

We are well out of that.
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Really?
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ISLAMABAD— The U.S. is embarking on a $1 billion crash program to expand its diplomatic presence in Pakistan and neighboring Afghanistan, another sign that the Obama administration is making a costly, long-term commitment to war-torn South Asia, U.S. officials said Wednesday.
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The White House has asked Congress for — and seems likely to receive — $736 million to build a new U.S. embassy in Islamabad, along with permanent housing for U.S. government civilians and new office space in the Pakistani capital.
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The scale of the projects rivals the giant U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, which was completed last year after construction delays at a cost of $740 million.
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"Ahmadinejad--who has significant backing from the sort of people who support Republicans here"
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Oh snap!

[...] Joe Klein: [...]

Okay, let me get this straight...the biggest moron for the unreadable liberal fishwrap that is TIME returns from a country whose brutal and repressive regime is in full view; a country about whose regime conservatives have been warning about for decades while quivering liberals have rushed to ausage the savages; a country whose government sows regional instability and kills with impunity unless American soldiers put things right.

And Mr. Klein attacks...Mr. McCain, Mr. Bush, Mr. Wehner anything or person he deems "right-wing?"

Joe Klein...the giant moron among the idiot readers of the unreadable liberal fish wrap that is TIME stands as an immortal among the clueless and feckless of the world.

Do you dunderheads even realize who the original "neo-cons" were? People like Moynihan and Kirkpatrick? Do you even realize that classical liberalism used to stand for something? The being a liberal meant, in a long ago and much-missed time, that you stood against tyranny and oppression?

Now you nattering nabobs stand for "social justice" or some such squishy and meaningless slogan.

US liberals are cowards by and large and make me want to vomit...preferably upon Joe Klein.

If being a "neo-con" desribes, in your fevered imaginations, someone who stands for and believes in liberty, free-market ecomonmies and the supremacy of the individual...count me in. Please!

You dunces stand for nothing except endless childhood and perpetual adolescence. You make me ill with contempt for your weakness.

By the way...think Iraq's liberty has anything to do with Iran today? Oh, that is right...Joe Klein and others told us Arabs could not handle liberty.

You people voted for this effete, know-nothing and narcissistic chief executive. Just so you could feel good.

Let me know how this idiot's administration turns out. Good luck.

Joe: I did not expect an early post. But in recent days St John and Lieberman/Graham have excelled themselves in being plain stupid. St John is now a cartoon character: I am grateful he did not say "We are all Iranians now". The other two schmos are no better. And Mike Pence? and the much Tannned Boehner? I am having a problem differentiating them from Ahmedinejad. We live in interesting times!

"Iran, by contrast, is breezy with freedom"

Brilliant choice of words given the state of events.

Also a bit of editing:

"Ahmadinejad--who had significant backing from people who support Democrats here"

Who was applauding Ahmadinejad before he gave his speech at Columbia University a couple years ago? Uptown Manhattan liberals. Ahmadinejad was Bush's arch-enemy while Bush was still in office. That was enough for the liberal establishment to at least give Ahmadinejad the benefit of the doubt in things big and small. Bush assessed the Iranian regime correctly and Klein had it and still has it wrong. He should be apologizing rather than pointing a finger.

Is Shaldi looking for a return of the Shah in Shah?????

Shaldi - let me get this straight. The same people who wanted to bomb and nuke Iran now want to issue a resolution supporting those same people? You guys don't know a damn thing about Iran, its culture or its people. As an American Iranian, I just want you to know that you can fcuk off.

From what I am gathering coming out of Iran a lot of the people protesting the elections are like us: ordinary folks, students, businessmen etc who are looking for a government which will respond to their needs. We should avoid getting entangled in their politics while giving warm support to their endeavours. What we don't need is heavy handed gasbaggery from the our collection of chickenhawks.

"Iran, by contrast, is breezy with freedom."
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Is that like saying that Darfur, when compared to North Korea, has a food surplus?
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orlconvict, I presume that as an American, you are appalled by Iranian shipment of explosives used to blow up Americans in Iraq and would understand the desire to stop such shipments, even with the use of force.

Behold, Spob gets a new handle!

It's amazing how many people think that not wanting the cure to be worse than the disease means you like the disease.
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Not wishing to kill people en masse is not synonymous with supporting a regime. Confusion on this point is frequently fatal but unfortunatly it's never the confused who actually succumb.

Ah, the genius that is queencersei. Did you too get dropped on your head as an infant?

shaldi, thanks so much for a good happy laugh. I thought at first that maybe it was in jest...dunderheads, nattering nabobs? And "classical liberal" versus what? You wouldn't know liberal, or conservative, for that matter if it bit you in the ass. Please don't suffocate on your own vomit. I can address your sludge, but won't, in appreciation for such a good laugh.

spob - of course I am appalled by the actions of the Iranian government. You won't find me supporting any faction of the regime since 1979. You are conveniently mixing the regime with the people - and what this is showing you blowhards is that they are not the same. Again - why now show support them when until recently you wanted to obliterate them? What changed? You suddenly became educated?

Btw - I also presume that as an American you were appalled by the shipment of explosives to blow up Iranians in the 1980s to that dictator in Iraq you have come to hate... and that you would understand the anger that Iranians would have because of that?

of course, formerlyjames, you probably don't care about the Iranian bombs that have killed our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines in Iraq . . . .
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I bet Joe Klein doesn't care either.

Very glad that you are back "safe and sound." Your soundness reflected in excellent observation "McCain unhinged." bless you.
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Buchanan's comments (below) make it clear that one doesn't have to be of the left to see the wisdom of Obama's response to this. And the poverty of the right's approach to foreign policy can be seen in how quickly so many of them would have fallen into a trap.
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We need a contest some week to make up headlines that the right would over-react to. They are ready to blame Obama for simply everything. Apparently never read about crying wolf, when young.
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Sullivan's blog has been covering this exclusively the last couple of days. Good stuff.
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"When your adversary is making a fool of himself, get out of the way. That is a rule of politics Lyndon Johnson once put into the most pungent of terms. U.S. fulminations will change nothing in Tehran. But they would enable the regime to divert attention to U.S. meddling in Iran's affairs and portray the candidate robbed in this election, Mir-Hossein Mousavi, as a poodle of the Americans...
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The dilemma for America is that the theocracy defines itself and grounds its claim to leadership through its unyielding resistance to the Great Satan—the United States—and to Israel. Nevertheless, Obama, with his outstretched hand, his message to Iran on its national day, his admission that the United States had a hand in the 1953 coup in Tehran, his assurances that we recognize Iran's right to nuclear power, succeeded. He stripped the Ayatollah and Ahmadinejad of their clinching argument—that America is out to destroy Iran and they are indispensable to Iran's defense," - Patrick Buchanan.

orlconvict, of course, you remember Iran's seizure of our embassy and the regional threat it posed during the Iran-Iraq war.
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I don't think any serious commentator or politician is of the view that military action should be directed at the Iranian people a la WWII and the German people. I myself have zero interest in "obliterating" the Iranian people.
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You clown yourself in your response.