Over-Interpretation
The bloggerati is just amazing sometimes. The comments of one admirer of Jim Jones in my 100 days piece has now telescoped into Jones in Trouble! The hilariously inaccurate Michael Goldfarb has now ginned up a conspiracy and a confrontation involving Richard Holbrooke and Doug Lute.
So let's set things straight: As far as I know, Jones is not in trouble. I have heard absolutely zilch about bureaucratic turf wars in the foreign policy field. Indeed, I've only heard that everyone is getting along pretty well. What I have heard from several of Jones's friends and admirers is that he's still feeling his way, still making the transition from general to staffer and that he probably should be a bit more aggressive in pushing his views in meetings. And the jury is still out on the most crucial point: whether he'll bond with Obama in the way the most successful National Security Advisers do (think Scowcroft-Bush or Clinton-Berger). And that is all there is to it, so far as I can tell.
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Goldfarb actually got a dig in on you too by extention. What he is basically saying is that you have your.... Nah I don't think I have to interpret it for you. But thats just who Goldfarb is.
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Or Nixon-Kissinger? Oh, great.
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Joe when it's the conservative ideologues it's called enhanced interpretation.
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When the rest of us do it it's called serial exaggeration, stretching the truth, lying etc. -
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Any thing that comes out of Goldfarb is immediately suspect. I did not have read any further in your post. This is all you need to set things straight about anything with Goldfarb attached to it.
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They're just completely losing it. It's April and they have already used Hitler and Stalin. The party is in tatters. The twentysomething daughter of their presidential candidate is calling out the leadership--and sounding like the sane person in the room.
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"and sounding like the only sane person in the room."
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Fixed. -
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Pat Buchanan just introduced a Martin Luther King defense to torturers, I'm done.
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JayAck: Megan McCain for Pres. Now that's a turn for the books - 8 years from now, eh?. Joe: Jones is well regarded in New Delhi and I think that is worth something. It is not important what Commentary and the Weakly SubStandard people think. Ignore them dumbos.
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Thanks gunny. I know you've got my back. Schmidt may still have been there, though.
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"[T]hink Scowcroft-Bush or Clinton-Berger"
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Is that the same "Berger" who stole highly classified national security documents, stuffed them in his underwear and then destroyed said highly classified national security documents and buried the ashes in his compost bin?
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Soon it'll be Sean Hannity taking Goldfarb's lies and spinning that to mean "the entire Obama White House will soon implode, leaving Obama ripe for impeachment!"
The right wingers sure can be funny - if they weren't so deadly serious...
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Joe, take it as a compliment that you are being over-interpreted. Cheney, Gingrinch and Rove on the other hand can barely get a bunch of folks who can't even successfully destroy tea bags to listen to them.
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Of teabags and right wing extremism that doesn't exist.
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Over exageration??
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Klein writes in an earlier article..."Gates is considered a major success within the Administration, as is the straight-talking Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton. There is some concern, however, about National Security Adviser James Jones, who is still adjusting to civilian life after a brilliant career in the military."
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When you consider someone a "major success" and "straight talking, Hillary Clinton" which is REALLY pushing the envelope to Pluto, how do you say someone has exaggerated on what you write. Now to Klein's statement about Jones, "who is still adjusting". How are you supposed to interpret the anagrams that Klein writes?
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It is pretty easy to write, Joe. You simply say what you mean and mean what you say. When you delve into anagrams and paradoxic statements, you may be part of the "conspiracy", when you write journalistic trash as you usually do. -
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sg, just jumping in here, but I seem to remember rusty standing at that particular fence right here on Swampland.
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Oh, excuse me! Speaking of... -
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And speaking of ex-Republicans...
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8018188.stm -
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And speaking of Democrats professing "race wars" if Clinton or McCain won the election of 2008, instead of Obama.
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RACE WAR: Florida Congressman Says Palin 'Don't Care Too Much What They Do With Jews and Blacks'... ^
From the September 25, 2008 14:03:04 GMT edition of the Drudge Report.Philadelphia columnist declares: 'Race war'... ^
From the September 16, 2008 09:44:28 GMT edition of the Drudge Report.Philadelphia Columnist Warns: 'If McCain wins, look for full-fledged race war'... ^
From the September 02, 2008 14:28:59 GMT edition of the Drudge Report.Philadelphia Columnist Warns: 'If McCain wins, look for full-fledged race class war'... ^
From the September 02, 2008 14:22:54 GMT edition of the Drudge Report.Philadelphia Columnist Warns: 'If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war'... ^
From the September 02, 2008 13:34:30 GMT edition of the Drudge Report.RACE WAR: OBAMA CAMPAIGN, BLACKS OUTRAGED BY CLINTONS ^
From the January 11, 2008 20:12:25 GMT edition of the Drudge Report.RACE WAR: OBAMA CAMPAIGN, BLACKS OUTRAGED BY CLINTON ^
From the January 11, 2008 20:10:24 GMT edition of the Drudge Report.
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Unfortunately the link Drudge gave about the reports are no longer available, but you can get the idea of how far left extremists use tactics like race and race baiting to get people upset.
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But, good try 53_3 and sgwhite. Maybe the "high Sherrifs" will finally do something with the both of you for incitement.
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You both are so far over the top that it isn't even funny. Go bark up someone else's tree, TROLLS!! -
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More here if you can to read on....
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http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/09/02/radical-liberals-threaten-race-wars-if-mccain-wins/ -
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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/66895.html
.WASHINGTON — The CIA inspector general in 2004 found that there was no conclusive proof that waterboarding or other harsh interrogation techniques helped the Bush administration thwart any “specific imminent attacks,” according to recently declassified Justice Department memos.
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That undercuts assertions by former vice president Dick Cheney and other former Bush administration officials that the use of harsh interrogation tactics including waterboarding, which is widely considered torture, was justified because it headed off terrorist attacks. -
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How are you supposed to interpret the anagrams that Klein writes?
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Anagrams? How 'bout these, rustyreturns?
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er rusty runts
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Are we surprised that the guy who is still trying to peddle a connection between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attackers would lie about the efficacy of his torture program?
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What I have learned over the last eight years is that the one unprecedented skill GOPers seem to posses is the ability to come up with a lie, as easily as a four year old can come up with tears, when they don't get their way. -
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Hmmm. It zeeem zat our Neo Nazi "freind", er, uh, I mean, feind, doesn't like being called out for his past actions.
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Oh well. It's ok. One of these days, he'll probably step over the line again and maybe wind up as Bubba's newest freind. -
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Dee, I had a similar thougt the other day regarding science. Science is a quest for proving the truth through facts. Anyone seaking to thwart or rebut science does not want truth, rather, they want a forum for the perpetuation of lies.
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Dang I thought my iphone did auto spell check
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Perhaps instead of tracking how much they lie, which has come to be a given whenever GOP lips are moving, we should be monitoring the intellectual rigor being applied to these less than truthful pursuits. Sort of on par with America's dumbest criminals. Republican's dumbest lies. We could spend the whole weekend scouring the internet for the most stupid lies told bt the party faithful.
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Heres's a start...
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Waterboarding was effective. If you have to do it 6 times a day how effective can it be?
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