The Fine Print Of Cheney's Complaint

Here's a question, has Cheney learned nothing from the Valerie Plame incident? How many times will he get away with exposing classified information? I might be wrong but isn't it illegal to even to allude to the specific nature of classified intel and its existence?

[...] kidding right Posted in Current Affairs by Tom Keen on April 21, 2009 Wow. Just wow. Cheney, what a [...]

Simply the number of times that waterboarding was applied is a testimony to it's level of effectiveness. Even if you have no qualms about the moral implications, the memo's make clear that the victims weren't the only ones getting their heads beaten against a wall.

Cheney has always lived in a world of his own with rules of his own. Like Leona Helmsley before him and her famous comment about taxes, Dick believes that laws are for the "little people", not him.

Based on his public statements since leaving office, I think we should add treason to the list of crimes Cheney should be tried for.
Has any former VP ever tried so hard to undermine his successors?

Dee
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What could Cheney have possibly learned from the Plame incident other than he could do it and get away with it scott free?

For my fellow 24 fans beware -- Cheney reminds me of the John Voight character. So much so, that in a completely life imitating art sort of way I'm expecting him to initiate a coo on the white house from his home in Virginian. Doesn't South Africa have a guy named Zuma under ethics investigation?

What would be gained by proving that "enhanced" interrogation techniques work? Does that justify them?... It all makes me think of Ray Bradbury.

SG -- well there's that, but I was hoping that he would learn from Scooter Libbey's experience that a presidential commutation is different than a pardon.

I totally get why Obama doesn't want his administration to be known for the Bush trials rather than the administration that saved America. But he could at least suggest to Card and the opthers that Cheney ought to stop drawing so much attention to himself.

Not to mention manipulating the agency to deliver his own version of intelligence, such as in the run up to the Iraq attack. If Cheney is not prosecutable, nobody in that rotten, corrupt administration is. He is the pinacle of the heap.

Last night on Sean Hannity's Fox News program former Vice President Dick Cheney ... The most alarming part of the interview was his suggestion that the Obama Administration is trying to hide information from the American people about how effective harsh interrogation had been.

Oh really. Dick "Saddam has a Nuke" Cheney rubbed himself in excrement again and, not only is its news-worthy, you found cause for alarm? And what was the import of Pinocchio's most recent prevarication: We got some information through torture.

Someone once said: "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." This post renders that statement inoperative. Congratulations.

The real news today:

[A]dministration officials said Monday that Mr. Emanuel had meant the officials who ordered the policies carried out, not the lawyers who provided the legal rationale.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/21/us/politics/21intel.html?_r=2&hp

Farenheit 451. Someone needs to tell Cheney that paper burns just as surely as his soul will in hell.

In his own sick and unintentional way, Cheney is making the best case possible for opening the files and preparing indictments. I hope Fox gives him his own nightly show.

Now, don't go Old Testament on me, sacredh . . . oh, OK. Go there. Yeah.

Give me a good night's sleep and a day off and I'll get downright medieval on his ass.

Can we please just stop paying any attention to Cheney? His influence simply does not hold any water outside of those who already prescribe to his views, or hold to an absolutist view of falling in line with anything one on "their side" says or does.
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Even while in office, friend and foe alike would agree that the former Vice President is brash, arrogant, and dare I say "a jerk". Some found that useful as long as he was pursuing ends they found beneficial, some did not. Either way, he is now relegated to something of a psuedo-Limbaugh role. Just another pundit with no real future of being in a public service position.
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Make no mistake, this was a very powerful man, and a very smart man with decades of history and knowledge we may never come to fully unravel. Nevertheless, he just doesn't have any pull. His target audience is primarily made up of a shrinking minority, from a fading generation. Let him fade off into the wild blue yonder. Kicking and screaming he may be, but it doesn't mean we have to give him the attention he craves.

I happened to have watched Cheney last evening on Hannity. What Chenney said was "if you are going to open up TOP SECRET memos and expose them to the public, then open them up totally. Include in your exposure exactly what "intel" was gleaned from said interrogation. Don't just point fingers at people and say how bad the intervention was, also point out what the outcomes were gained.
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Obama opened the hornets nest, Chenney is just calling him out to provide further information.
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I agree with Chenney, tell it all or tell nothing at all. I as an American have the right now to know it all, not just what Obama decides to let me know.

Would this be as opposed as to what Bush/Cheney decided we should know?

rusty, you agree with Cheney?? Surprise, surprise.

LOL@formerlyjames!

rusty, I am sure the you will extend you agreement to any future inane statements Cheney will make, even before we hear them.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Briefing-by-White-House-Press-Secretary-Robert-Gibbs-4-20-09/

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Q Just to -- on the CIA, you said that you released these documents for two reasons -- one, because it was the right thing to do, but also because you wouldn't have had any legal alternative.
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MR. GIBBS: Well, I mentioned that as a backdrop for the situation; the notion that I think it's important for everyone to understand that there was a pending court case that involved Freedom of Information Act -- a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit involving -- that had been ongoing involving this government and an interest group for access to these documents.

The truth is we already know most of what was in the OLC memos from the Red Cross report, its just that wingnuts didn't believe the Red Cross report. Funny how the report mirrors the memos though isn't it?

Cheney, and the rest of the arrogant Bush Admin. made mockery of the Constitution, squandered US lives, hollowed out our military and contributed to the financial crisis. All this based on "cooked intell." that lead an invasion of Iraq. He should just sulk away, instead of hanging around like the at fault driver of a horrific traffic accident, proclaiming his innocence.