Obama's Vatican Ambassador Rejected? No.
I'd missed this until now, but apparently the trustworthy folks at Newsmax have been circulating a report claiming that the Obama administration has submitted three separate ambassadorial candidates to the Vatican for approval and each has been rejected for being "insufficiently pro-life."
You'll be shocked to learn this is not true. But oh how perfect it must have sounded to the Newsmax crew when they put out the story. Everyone knows Democrats aren't pro-life. And now Obama can't even get a Vatican ambassador approved--because there's not a single pro-life Catholic in the Democratic Party!
Unfortunately for them, John Thavis at Catholic News Service actually called over to the Vatican to ask about the rumors. Here's what he found:
Vatican sources said not only was the report inaccurate, but that its premise was faulty. The Vatican has not been in the habit of vetting the personal beliefs or ideas of candidates before accepting them as ambassadors, they said.
There have been occasions in the last two years when the Vatican has objected to ambassadorial candidates -- from Argentina, in the case of a divorced Catholic with a live-in partner, and from France, where the candidate was an openly gay Catholic in a union with another man.
"For Catholic ambassadors, there is the question of their matrimonial situation. But outside of that, I don't think there are other criteria," said one Vatican source.
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Republicans lie as easily as they blink. It is really as simple as that.
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PNNTO, you're an idiot.
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While that may be true I note you didn't refute.
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And speaking of liars, idiot, check out Slow Joe Biden's latest tall tale:
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/09/bush-aides-challenge-bidens-boasts-oval-office-slapdowns/
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But he's so much more qualified than Palin. Gimme a break. A cheat and a liar.
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And speaking of lies, how about Rangel's lie that he has now paid all of his federal income taxes, even though he has not paid tax on the benefit he got from those below-market rentals he got.
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Can't answer that one, can you DB? -
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PNNTO, I am not going to bother refuting such nonsense your first post. It's stupid, adds nothing to the discussion other than to show that you probably got dropped on your head when you were born.
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You know, I cannot believe Joe Biden actually told someone that he (i.e., Joe) was smarter than that someone. Wow.
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PNNTO
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Its all they have now man, lies and deceit. Whenever there is a discussion of issues they run away. Check this out, bring up any substantive issue and a Republican instead of staying on the topic will simply try to change the subject to something a Democrat did. Doesn't matter if the Democrat did it 20 years ago or if it even is remotely connected to the original topic. They just want you to engage the topics that THEY choose because when it comes to what is going on in the world today they got nothing. In a year or so there won't even be a Republican party at this rate.
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BTW there are two wingnut flame wars going on right now. The dude at Little Green Footballs has pissed all the other wingnuts off because he actually came out and had the nerve to say that Glenn Beck is a wack job whose rhetoric is over the top. Atlas Grubbed and nem are not real happy with dude anymore.
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The second flame war is over Eric Ericson over at RedState deciding that because Levi Johnston dared to call Sarah Palin a liar that it was Erickson's duty to accuse Johnston of having a sexual relationship with his sister. Moderate conservatives on the net do not approve at all but he is getting all kinds of high fives on his own site.
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They will continue to eat each other until there is nothing left and I will be watching with popcorn the whole while -
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spob, your comments make me laugh so much, how does one go about being the propaganda police for the republican party? Was there kool-aid served at your initiation?
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Damn. I'm all for unmoderated comments, but I think it's about time the High Sheriffs took out the trash. Spooge-encrusted threads are no fun for anyone.
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Just amazing, some idiot can post that Republicans lie on the same day that the noted truth-teller, VPOTUS makes a whopper.
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And gee, we have the Obama WH stating that he didn't bow to the King of Saudi Arabia. A lie.
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You guys do have a sense of irony. But hey, unprincipled hacks like Amy Sullivan will carry your water for you. -
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"Republicans lie as easily as they blink. It is really as simple as that."
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I'm sure hellslittleangel, that you will start with that comment, which adds zero to any debate.
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But probably not. And I'm guessing that despite your name, you're really not that fun of a date. -
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I think the reason Sullivan is posting so much today is to see how long she can keep spob going.
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Ahhh, guys, enjoy this link:
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http://www.redstate.com/blog/2009/04/09/ny-20-vets-stand-up-to-defend-military-voting-rights/ -
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spoob - I guess you are one of the 25 percent of the wingnuts that still support the Republican Party. What you wingnuts don't seem to understand is that it doesn't matter how many times you repeat your nonsense, your ideology has been dismissed and your party is going down the sh!tter. After the 2010 elections, the Republican Party will not even have enough members in congress to obstruct anything.
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Question: How can you tell Republicans are lying?
Answer: They produce keystrokes. -
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I get that I'm an idiot and all that, but the post was about republicans lying-about The Church no less!-and my comment was about republicans lying.
And yet no one will say that the republicans don't lie. Easily.
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HAS to be parody. -
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"They just want you to engage the topics that THEY choose because when it comes to what is going on in the world today they got nothing."
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Yes SG I would have to agree, with Glenn Beck now trying to gin up the red scare redux they are going back even farther than 20 years, My 93 year old dad is over here hollering over this hail to McCarthy 2.0. The GOP is so sad. -
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PNNTO
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The New/Old GOP motto
."If you ain't lyin, you ain't tryin!
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PNNTO: Republicans lie as easily as they blink. It is really as simple as that.
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Speaking of liars...guess it's worse to be gay than to break a Commandment.
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I mean, if something like that that doesn't get Amy Sullivan's attention, nothing will. -
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G_crush, as the child of a former pastor and victim of many a church service...I'll say that the biggest lies that those guys tell are to themselves.
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As for the thread hijacking, death rattles are never music to the ears. It's just an ugly game of "yea but this guy did this". Cornered, scared and realizing that nobody wants what they're selling and they don't know sh!+ about selling anything else. -
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The Vatican appears to have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy. For ambassadors as well as priests. Right wingers lie. So what's the story?
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somepeoplelikeit: ..I'll say that the biggest lies that those guys tell are to themselves.
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I once had a someone with a Masters from Harvard Divinity tell me that, after intensely studying Christianity, many of that university program's graduates 'belief' is more of an exercise in ego preservation...i.e., if they don't believe, then where's their special place in the universe?
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So, there's no way I can argue with you on your point. -
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G_crush: if they don't believe, then where's their special place in the universe? Well said. Trying to find..their special place in the universe...has cause many a man to do many a crazy thing. Like, lie about the church.
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What's interesting to me though is that almost all people of wingnuttery, in this and other countries, were born into it. They feel it's their place. I think people who are honest enough to ask themselves questions are more likely to be open and tolerant. -
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I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why good Catholic politicians have to actively work to pass secular laws that strip women of their reproductive rights to be "sufficiently pro-life."
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somepeople, I would add that they are not just born into it, they are brainwashed in it. And it's too uncomfortable to question themselves afterward. Right wingers have no questions. Only answers.
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