Afghanistan Times
There are dueling op-eds about Afghanistan policy in the New York Times today, by Les Gelb and by Max Boot and the Kagan Family Singers. The headlines are more extreme than the pieces: Gelb wants to withdraw from Afghanistan (but not really) and the Bootists want to "surge" there (but not very much). For the moment, I disagree with both.
But first, it's important to note that both op-eds agree on a great many things: the need for a better coordinated economic development effort in Afghanistan, the need to build the Afghan army, the need to negotiate with and turn (and bribe) as many Taliban-oriented tribes as possible and, of course, the need to prevent Afghanistan from returning to the status quo ante 9/11, when it was a staging area for Al Qaeda.
Boot and the Kagans are more myopic. They focus on Afghanistan, only flicking at the safe havens across the border in Pakistan--that is, they virtually ignore the real problem we're facing. Indeed, they say that if their surge strategy were implemented in Afghanistan, "There is no question that we can succeed against these much weaker foes, notwithstanding the support they receive from Pakistan and to a lesser extent Iran." That is foolish in the extreme, an utter reversal of what should be the real US priorities. Our real enemies--the Al Qaeda leadership and their extremist Taliban allies--reside in Pakistan and are attempting to destabilize that country. The Obama Administration has, rightly, shifted its focus there; Afghanistan is only important to US national interests if it once again becomes a safe haven for our terrorist enemies now residing in Pakistan. Preventing that is sufficient rationale for a continuing US presence in Afghanistan, while a major effort is made to sort out the situation in Pakistan. Boot/Kagans, who coyly note that they've recently completed an 8-day tour of Afghanistan sponsored by David Petraeus, clearly want something more: they lean toward the insertion of additional American troops on top of the 17,000 en route now (which is a position favored by the Army).
Gelb understands that the focus should really be on Pakistan, but his 3-year timetable for withdrawal from Afghanistan is based on little more than whim, so far as I can tell. There is a need for a continuing US presence in Afghanistan as an adjunct to the more important effort--clearing the safe havens in Pakistan. Gelb also severely undervalues the ability of the US Army--and a few of our NATO allies--to use counterinsurgency tactics successfully. (He should check out Tom Ricks' new book, The Gamble, about the Petraeus operation in Iraq--and so should you, if you're interested in this issue.) The doctrine of protecting the population first is particularly efficacious in a situation, like Afghanistan, where most of the local tribespeople have little sympathy for the Taliban. (Boot/Kagan are absolutely correct about the need to establish the rule of law in Afghanistan--and in Pakistan, too, although they don't mention that.)
Once again, let me emphasize: the Taliban are plural. Many are local tribes disaffected by the corrupt and lawless Karzai government. Some are opium militias. Some are religious extremists like Mullah Omar, and are allies of Al Qaeda. The latter group is key. Indeed, our most important military task is to reduce our enemies--by protecting the population, by bribery and, as a last resort, by the judicious use of lethal force, if necessary--to the bare minimum in the Pashtun lands that straddle Afghanistan and Pakistan.
To do that will require a combination of the counterinsurgency tactics that the Boot/Kagans favor and the regional diplomacy plus focus on Pakistan that Gelb emphasizes. The question of whether or not to send more troops--the only question that really divides these two points of view--doesn't have to be made immediately (although additional brigades should be trained for Afghanistan duty, just in case). In fact, it is almost a peripheral consideration. The real trouble lies in Pakistan, as the civil unrest due to erupt this weekend should make very clear.
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The real trouble lies in Pakistan, as the civil unrest due to erupt this weekend should make very clear.
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once again, JK tries to sell the "Taliban is a threat" bullsh*t while never confronting what the real problem in Afghanistan is -- the fact that things are "breaking down" because Zardari is backing a decision made by the Musharraf court to deny the leaders of the largest opposition party in Pakistan (which is the majority party in Pakistan's largest province) access to power.
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The backstory -- which joe pretends doesn't exist -- is this. Musharref threw out judges from the Pakistan Supreme Court who were appointed before he took power in a military coup, and replaced them with his supporters. Zardari promised to restore the constitutional judges if elected, but has refused to do no once he was elected (ostensibly because those judges had found him guilty of corruption.)
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Nawaz Sharif was the elected leader of Pakistan when Musharraf overthrew the government. During that coup, as the leader of the constitutionally empowered government, Sharif prevented the coup's leader, Musharraf, from landing his plane in Pakistan. As a result of that action, Sharif was tried and convicted of "kidnapping" charges, and the Musharraf packed Supreme Court affirmed that conviction and made Sharif ineligible for national office.
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Naturally, Sharif's supporters are pissed off, and will be taking to the streets -- but its not just Sharif's supporters... except for his own Party, Zardari has angered everyone.
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And why this matters to the US is simple -- Zardari is seen as supported by, and supportive of, the United States, while Sharif is far less favorably disposed to the US -- Sharif party is an "Islamicist" party that is interested in Sharia law -- and it is expected that Sharif would be far less hostile to the Taliban than Zardari claims to be.
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In other words, right now, the USA is on the wrong side -- Zardari's side. The ultimate outcome of this is that Sharif and his allies gain control of Pakistan (although the short-term results are likely to include another military coup), and Sharif is unlikely to forget how the US supported Zardari against him.
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By reducing this whole thing to "The Taliban is coming", Joe simply ensures that someone who is hostile to the US -- and likely to allow the Taliban to maintain sanctuaries in Pakistan -- comes to power in Pakistan. Joe's tunnel vision means that he wants the US to continue to back Zardari in order to defeat the Taliban -- but that stance is not good for the Pakistani people, and is ultimately self-defeating. -
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oops...this
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"once again, JK tries to sell the "Taliban is a threat" bullsh*t while never confronting what the real problem in Afghanistan is"
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should have been this
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once again, JK tries to sell the "Taliban is a threat" bullsh*t while never confronting what the real problem in Pakistan is -
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Lurid headlines appeared in some papers yesterday ( http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5888427.ece ) regurgitating a story that was placed in the media by US intelligence agencies. The story claimed that an ex-prisoner of the the Guantanamo torture camp in Cuba is now a leading Taliban commander in Afghanistan, responsible for the change in tactics that has seen their effectiveness increase markedly against occupying troops - especially British troops in the south of the country.
I find the timing of this story too good to be true on the part of the UK government, coinciding as it does with the revelations about UK collusion in torture at Guantanamo, Morocco and Pakistan by recently released detainee, Binyam Mohamed.
Conveniently for the authorities it is impossible to cross reference any sources to verify the veracity of their claims.
The man, who has been named as Abdullah Ghulam Rasoul, was released into the custody of the Afghan government in December 2007 and subsequently released.
According to US intelligence the man has since changed his name - which naturally makes me even more suspicious about the story - to Abdullah Zakir.
Rasoul was originally apprehended by US forces in the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan and because he had a gun and more than one watch was assumed to be a supporter of the Taliban. But most men in Afghanistan have a gun or access to one given the country has been in a state of near-perpetual war for thirty years, so this apprehension was in fact the typical random kidnapping of anyone US forces came across that they designated as being on the 'battlefield'.
Does this now pose a problem for Obama in keeping his promise of shutting down Guantanamo, or should it be seen as a good excuse for not following through on that particular election promise? I would suggest the latter.
All this comes at a time when the UK and other NATO member states have been complaining that US forces in Afghanistan are not been sharing intelligence information with their 'partners'. The Guardian said that the secret report:
"Based on scores of interviews with British, US, Canadian and Dutch military, intelligence and diplomatic officials - and marked for "official use only" - the book-length report is damning of a US military often unwilling to share intelligence among its military allies"
In addition a US general admitted this week ( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/4960902/US-general-admits-coalition-not-winning-in-large-areas-of-Afghanistan-including-British-run-south.html ) that the coalition is losing the war, particularly in the south, which seems like an implicit criticism of the British effort that has seen soldiers' lives being lost every week and won't go down very well at the British Ministry of Defence.
http://gazasolidarity.blogspot.com/2009/03/afghan-lies-from-discredited-us.html
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There is a need for a continuing US presence in Cambodia as an adjunct to the more important effort--clearing the safe havens in Laos.
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There isn't the slightest justification for us to be wasting the lives of our servicemen and women in a game between two other players who are simply using us as tools. -
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I was going to ask what this was all about:
The real trouble lies in Pakistan, as the civil unrest due to erupt this weekend should make very clear.
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but then pluk explained it. Thanks, pluk! -
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What Friar Tuck said.
Those who forget the mistakes of the past.....
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Joe Klein:
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Is Paul Lukasiak correct in his criticism of your piece?
.In other words, right now, the USA is on the wrong side -- Zardari's side. The ultimate outcome of this is that Sharif and his allies gain control of Pakistan (although the short-term results are likely to include another military coup), and Sharif is unlikely to forget how the US supported Zardari against him.
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By reducing this whole thing to "The Taliban is coming", Joe simply ensures that someone who is hostile to the US -- and likely to allow the Taliban to maintain sanctuaries in Pakistan -- comes to power in Pakistan..
Is this true, Joe Klein? Are we (you, the op-eds in the Times, the Obama Administration) taking our eyes off of the ball again? -
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The real trouble lies in Pakistan, as the civil unrest due to erupt this weekend should make very clear.
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what I didn't mention is why there are expected to be problems this weekend.
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Sharif had organized a massive rally to take place this weekend at the parliament building -- Zardari has gone out and arrested hundreds of Sharif's supporters who were organizing the rally, and issued an executive decree banning gatherings of more than four people. Despite all this, Sharif is still urging his supporters to show up for the rally.... for some more background on the potential from unrest this weekend, see http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/13/world/asia/13pstan.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=sharif,%20pakistan&st=cse
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Is Paul Lukasiak correct in his criticism of your piece?
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stuart... I'm hurt!
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In 2008, the Democrats told me that if I voted for John McCain, the U.S. economy would worsen, the market would tank, unemployment would go through the roof, we'd botch the war in Afghanistan, Pakistan would run amuck, deficit spending would increase, Iran would get a nuke, Russia and Red China would be ignored, the administration would be filled with crooks and racists, our VEEP would be an embarrassment, and we'd have troops in Iraq until at least 2011.
Well I did vote for McCain, and damned if all that didn't come to pass.
Mission Accomplished Admiral Hussein!
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Joe Klein:
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I've noticed that you haven't responded to my question as to your opinion of Paul Lukasiak's commentary.
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Perhaps you would like to respond to the piece by Tristero at Digby's blog, entitled "A Proposal For Afghanistan"? -
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"Boot/Kagan are absolutely correct about the need to establish the rule of law in Afghanistan--and in Pakistan"
I always find it ironic to read American pundits railing on about OTHER countries which do not apply 'the rule of law' to their satisfaction. Are these the same pundits who attacked the trial and sentencing of Scooter Libby? Who cheered as Bush/Cheney ignored FISA and with the paid connivance of telecom corporations spied on millions illegally? Who even now sputter and bluster over the vindictiveness of 'left wing radicals' who want to investigate and charge those who planned, ordered, and carried out kidnapping, torture, and illegal confinement on innocent civilians?
You guys are an embarrassment to the civilized world. Get your own house in order before you try and preach[sell] your brand of justice to the Middle East. They know exactly what you mean by 'rule of law'.
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