Still Funny Almost 3 Weeks Later?
I say yes.
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Michael, you'll want to be ready to interact with the Swampdwellers on this one.
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Personally, after this week not much is funny, especially seeing Newt. The DeathEaters on the Hill and the teevee are sucking all the hope out of my system.
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Pour yourself a drink and consume a little Bill Moyers. -
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What? No.
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Somewhere on the internet there exists a picture of Joe Scarborough (?) pummeling someone's face in a botched high five attempt. Now that's comedy. -
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Oh, wait, I was thinking of this.
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I don't know who that is. Not Joe Scarborough, though.
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I'll never tire of Scarborough dropping the F bomb. Also. -
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was it funny three weeks ago?
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My guess is that its absolutely brilliant, if you are a beltway insider and/or political junkie.
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But I found it lacking -- first off, I have no idea what those two guys were all about (and spent too much time trying to figure out who they were).
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Then there was the "wait! I know her. Oh she's gone! Who is this? Looks familiar.. wait, was that ariana huffington three shots ago" factor.
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The Newt parts were funny, tho. -
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acidj
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Thats Jeff Lourie the owner of the Philly Eagles. And a moron. -
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I have to say, if you made it all the way through the nearly 4 minutes of that you might be good at competitive eating. A hot dog or two is fine, but wow, you have to be a glutton to think that's funny for 4 minutes.
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I can admit it--funny, too long but funny. Even if posted by MS!
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Thanks to joyomama and that bloke from WV for posting the Moyers' link. We'd all do well to post outside-the-bubble narratives here more often. GG gets a lot of mentions, as he should, but Amy Goodman/Democracy Now is sure worthy of our attn.
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P-luk: Thanks for the long/thoughtful response
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/02/06/post-partisan-is-not-bi-partisan/?apage=2#comment-41425
to my critique of your Obama-bashing--there's much in your response that I can agree with. Note: I am responding here as I refuse to comment on AS's threads going FWD.
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Anyway, the only pt. I'd take issue you with in your response is when you say: "I think its important to first understand them [the GOP] before I criticize them, and it bugs the crap out of me when I see the 'Republicans want Obama to fail, and don't care about the country' kind of stuff [....] The GOP doesn't oppose the economic proposal because they want to see more Americans out of work and they'll be able to win during the next election cycle by blaming the Democrats, they think that the program is going to be a failure and they want to, and think they will be, proven right."
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As far as the average GOP voter goes, I'd say fair enough. But as far as the average GOP member of congress, or GOP-supporting corp godfathers go, do you honestly think they're acting according to conscience, love of country or concern for all Americans? They're not that stupid or naive in my book. For a generation, they've been all about taking care of their wealthy patrons (dems hardly innocent of this), completely aware of what their policies have done to average Americans--factory hands, soldiers, children without insurance, an entire generation of urban poor. I'd like to believe that their continued blind support of trickle down economics was due to patriotism, but I don't. They may care about the country P-luk, but only if you're one of the white folks clutching a bible at Palin-rallies, or one of their wealthy brethren/supporters. The rest of us can get f@cked. So, I get you on understanding your enemies and not demonizing 10s of millions of American voters (most are simply not educated enough or exposed to the type of narratives mentioned on Moyers' show), but the GOP respons. for running the country into the ground--they knew what they were doing and who they were serving/disserving every step of the way. -
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Still funny! (And funnier as it went on. Something about taking a fairly lame premise and following it to it's utterly absurd conclusion... reminds me of a major political party recently in power...)
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jcp -- I do think they believe it. Its amazing what people will believe when its in their self-interest to do so (and still more amazing how people will stick to those beliefs despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Ever hear of Galileo?)
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Well, it sounds like a nice world view P-luk, if we can assume GOP pols share a common sense of humanity. That the wars they've waged weren't about resources and hegemnony but spreading democracy and protecting the homeland from threats. That destroying the environment and ignoring science were necessary evils so our extractive industries could keep American industry churning along--and not about keeping big oil, big agri-business et al happy. That tax cuts to v. rich really were genuinely intended to help the little man on the street, that our human congresspeople on the right feel cutting the elite's taxes will create opp. for everyone--that it's not about enriching their future employers/partners (Daschle-sque), not to mention perks/funding while still ensconced in office.
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I understand about believing what you want to/have to believe. That explains religious faith in a nutshell to me. It explains the sad cases of returned soldiers, maimed or otherwise, or surviving family members of those who didn't return--many of them never lose faith in the righteousness of said wars. God knows, if they ever acknowledged the real objectives in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghan, they'd go mad--as so many have. And again I understand how disinformation and propaganda (coupled with egregiously poor education and media coverage) have created a situation like what happened about 5 years ago in Alabama, when Gov, what was it, Riley?, tried to raise taxes on the wealthy to benefit the lowly--and what happened, the AL poor couldn't vote for tax increases on anyone, even though it'd benefit their kids' schools, health care et al. I get that, but please do not tell me that the uber-stinking-rich Bushes of this world and their like do not know exactly who they serve/disserve. All the rest is pure PR and progagandist rhetoric. They run/serve to get rich/stay rich/protect the rich and serve as ministers of information for the rich, period. So, please, reserve some of your bile for the likes of these cancers on the body politic. Compared to them, Obama is a f-ing saint. -
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And I'd add that I find it ironic that you, rattling the sabers of partisan warfare, would want this debate to boil down to two parties who both have their country's interests at heart. That one's ideology is off, but they really think their platform is the best way FWD. Cuz not only do I disagree, per my last comment, but I think if you repeatedly tell the American people that the interests the GOP is pushing are not yours, that they are serving the wealthy, then sooner or later (maybe not in AL) the people will start to understand. Having said all of this, the dems are nearly as bad, and the longer they stay in power, the greater the risks there are that they'll further cozy up to the selfsame corrupting influences.
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The key to understanding the Republican position is simply this. They have a vision of people who don't deserve money. The Democrats have a similar vision but of different people. Whenever Republican's think of poor people they imagine folks who don't work but simply live from government check to government check but have the audacity to enjoy sex and raise children anyway. They hate those people and wish they would simply starve to death so they can stop thinking about them.
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No wonder, they don't see a big problem with an economic meltdown. They know that the folks who matter will come out okay. -
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Four minutes of high-five-stop-and-glare with DC insiders and various celebrities? Waste of bandwidth. -
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Jcp, I think you seriously underestimate the capacity for self-deception that people have.
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Even when they are capable of acknowledging what they are doing/advocating, they frame in in a positive way (while some conservatives acknowledge that Iraq was about oil, we talk about hegemony and neo-colonialism, while they talk about "protecting the world's oil supply from Islamic extremists" -- and they really do believe that crap.)
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I have taken a poll. Among elementary students: so, so, cool laugh your ass off funny. Among middle school students: hilarious. Among older teens: very funny. Among young adults: a little amusing. Among older adults: what?
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