Bibi Berserk About Iran

"What is not reversible is the acquisition of nuclear weapons by a fanatic radical regime ... We have never had, since the dawn of the nuclear age, nuclear weapons in the hands of such a fanatical regime," he claimed.
So we are to believe that Pakistan and North Korea are models of stability?

"What is not reversible is the acquisition of nuclear weapons by a fanatic radical regime ... We have never had, since the dawn of the nuclear age, nuclear weapons in the hands of such a fanatical regime," he claimed.
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Stay away from mirrors, Bibi.

The 'irrational' charge has always been the meat behind the most noxious war-cheerleading rhetoric. It's part of the dehumanizing process which always seems necessary before wholesale slaughter becomes palatable enough to actually engage in.
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One of the ironies of our time is that the existence of suicide bombers does much to reinforce the notion that there is indeed something 'different' about the extremist Muslim mindset. Too that it's actually a measure of the desparation that people feel when they are rendered powerless. (A situation that another Islamic bomb would help mitigate - the dark irony abounds.)

"Too" should read "Too bad"

"On the other hand, if I'm the Supreme Leader and Israel persists in threatening to "neutralize" Iran, I'm going to develop a nuclear weapon as quickly as possible to deter possible Israeli aggression."
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There are other very serious difficulties with even the idea of going it alone.
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I might point out that neither the Gaza campaign (which would have only succeeded if pursued to the end and followed by an onerous occupation) nor the Lebanon campaign (which would not have succeeded, period), failed to stop rocket fire.
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There is a point to all this:
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Israel, if it wants to "neutralize" Iran, would have no chance of doing so unless it wanted to nuke them. Iran has a huge advantage in mobility and hiding places simply because they have more and varied geography.
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You can't blast stuff to smithereens unless you can find it, so a retaliation on the part of Iran would be inevitable, and, could easily escalate into missile exchanges involving WMD.
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Israels' air force is not large enough by any means to cover all the targets needed to "neutralize" that country anyway, so in an exchange of missiles, unless one goes WMD, Israel has a distinct disadvantage in that the lower accuracy of Iran's missiles are abetted by the small size of Israel, whereas Israel's missiles are not enough without nukes to put an end to Iran's missile strikes.
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Plus, don't expect Hizb Allah to stand by idly, further stretching Israel's capabilities...

In a nutshell, the paradigm has changed, Joe, and no one wants to say so.
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It is time for Israel to get out of the prison-warden business and make real peace with both the Arabs and the Palestinians.
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I hope if Bibi does get elected, Obama reads him the riot act on his promise to expand the "settlements". I think a real arse-kicking, with teeth in it, is the best for Bibi...

"Too that it's actually a measure of the desparation that people feel when they are rendered powerless. (A situation that another Islamic bomb would help mitigate - the dark irony abounds.)"
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A very interesting take on this. Never thought of it that way (your last).

I wonder if there is an update on the Susan Rice story yet...

Iranian diplomats were found with maps in baghdad of where to target sunnis. Iran committed the first genocide ever without any international criticism.

Our troops have killed thousands of civilians but iranian trained militias killed hundreds of thosuands of sunnis in iraq and got away with it. Iran provided these militias with the training, money, weapons and intelligence to wipe out whole sunni neighborhoods in iraq.

This Iranian regime isn't rational. Shia facism is far more dangerous than some rag tag taliban in pakistan.

Iran has given hamas long range missiles to hit dimona in israel.

Iran has supplied hamas with long range rockets filled with ball bearings.

Iran has reportedly given hezbollah chemical weapons.

Joe Klein you obviously don't know bibi because he has said many times that Israel can't attack iran and that it is a world problem.

Bibi wants europe to really sanction iran. EU businesses are still doing business with Iran. That was Bibi's message.

Bibi was prime minister from 1996-1999 one of the quietest times in israeli history. bibi did a deal on hebron with the palestinians.

Bibi is also an economics wizard.

Shia facism is what is scary. The likes of sadr, iranian president, nasrallah.

Iran has also killed many christian leaders in lebanon.

Iran is a superpower and to compare them to some ragtag taliban in pakistan is outrageous.

Iran has huge financial resources.

Iran supports the worst regimes in the world. Iran is very friendly with the sudan leaders and mugabe.

Iran gives groups weapons. Iran is far stronger and far more reach than the taliban.

The taliban and al queda aren't spreading long range missiles like iran.

Al queda is a shell of their former selves.

We are in afghanistan and pakistan because they have no army. So we act tough against these rag tag sunnis. We act like the taliban is some big threat.

The taliban have no reach outside of afghanistan and pakistan. We are only fighting them because we are there.

Would it be out of line for me here to point out that Bibi is a racist, outside of probably all those other God-like qualities you've listed here?
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After all, "xenophobic" is but a euphemism...

Iran has a thousand times more resources and technology than any militants in pakistan.

Iran is giving groups highly sophisticated drones.

Iran wants to dominate the middle east. The shia crescent of iran, sadr in iraq, assad in syria, hezbollah in lebanon, is much more dominant than the taliban.

Iran moves weapons by sea. Joe you obviously think a superpower like iran is less of a stragegic concern than some rag tag militia.

Joe Iran bombing a jewish center in argentina killing 85 was that rational?

Argentina courts have indicted many high level iranians for that.

Iran is lead by mullahs. Yeah real rational country. Just like switzerland.

Yeah real rational this sick regime has museums praising the holocaust.

This sick regime has cartoon contests about the holocaust. This sick regime uses holocaust international day to bash the holocaust.

Somehow the word rational doesn't come to mind.

Someone else is berserk about Iran, too..

Hmmm... so Saddam kept a cap on Iran's expansion and we (Bush) hung him from the rafters. Iran is an economic superpower that we (Bush) provide oil money to because the Republicans can't believe energy comes from anything else but oil and the oil market is the only way to go... and Iran wants to tempt a nuclear exchange so they can fight over the radioactive dust with the last suvivors because that's what economic superpowers hope and pray for...

I'm moving to Iceland.

cenfan:
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Icelands government collapsed last week. It's cold, except for the volcanoes, and there's no jobs.
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I was thinking since I already had practice cowering under my bed over the prospect of the Mighty Iraqi Air Force appearing over the horizon in 2003, I might just reuse my old cowering-place instead.
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Its cheaper, anyway...

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Lok everybody, Jimmyjamz is back! Where you been, son?
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Israeli interests are not necessarily American interests. Period.

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I don't think it's jimmyjamz, cause he doesn't wax sadly nostalgic over the days when racism was a core American principle.

Joe, re your update:
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Have you (or anyone else for that matter) heard whether the Israeli High Court has deigned to strike down the ban on Arab parties in the next election.
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Israel's "beacon" of humanity, humility, and hope that I was brought up to believe in seems to be getting dimmer by the day...

Actually, nowadays, and please forgive the parallelism here, but the Isrealis seem to be more like Vogons than anyone else...

53_3: Fox New told me that Iranians have an inbred fear of cold, fish eating, poor, jobless, white, kind-of-european folks... and volcanoes.

Many posters here who don't like the right don't seem to mind Iranian mullahs.

Remember iran president saying there is no such thing as gays in iran.

Iran the real beacon of liberal democracy. Don't they have a nobel laurete under house arrest?

I guess the left here likes the far right in iran as long as they want to destroy israel.

Funny they get all angry about rick warren but they love them some iranian facists.

The left here and the facists there seem to have love eachother.