SCHIP: Stalled Again

"They include eliminating a five-year waiting period for new, legal immigrant children and mothers to enroll in the program, slightly loosening identity requirements, and in some cases loosening family income limits on eligibility for SCHIP coverage. "
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On what grounds do the Rethugs oppose? Socialism?

Karen, do the Democrats have enough votes on this to stop a filibuster? They shouldn't have to worry over Republican support if the caucus sticks together, right?

Because, JMHO, but in the middle of these economic times opposing SCHIP seems stupid. And tailor made for an attack ad in 2010 linking you to Bush/Hoover.

"On what grounds do the Rethugs oppose?"
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The policy works for more people and some of them aren't white and Republican.

Also: If they don't have enough votes I hope Reid grows a spine and lets them actually filibuster SCHIP.

Time magazine: "Even as the Department of Health and Human Services documents a growing demand for the State Children's Health Insurance Program, ...."

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A "growing demand for the State Children's Health Insurance Program,..."?

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Time magazine is surprised that confiscating property from some Americans to give to other Americans produces a "growing demand" from the takers? Have you ever seen the brides rushing into stores that are giving away free wedding dresses?

Shorter wingnut: healthcare for children = confiscating property and free wedding dresses. What a maroon.

"Or maybe I appreciate the fact that I have decent health insurance for my kids, and think other people should, too."
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That and I would appreciate kids getting checkups and vaccinations so they don't end up being treated in a hospital when they get really, really sick. Other people should too.

Oh better yet for those who focus a little more on self interest. Health care for children so that we reduce the opportunity for bringing more disease like TB to a school near you.

Mark my words, by the end of the year we're going to see stories out of Capitol Hill like:
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"Republican Congresspeople have barricaded themselves inside the Capitol Building with AK-47s and grenades. They demand that a small child be sacrificed to them every hour on the hour, and are threatening to kill interns until their demands are met.
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No word yet on whether the child needs to be Palestinian, Mexican, or merely poor."

What do you suppose it will take for the geniuses who make up the opposition to healthcare reform to realize that every dime we put into wellness and preventative primary care is a small fortune saved in healthcare dollars spent?

When those cute little street urchins aren't vaccinated, it's a recipe for epidemics.
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Cincy: On what grounds do the Rethugs oppose?
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On the grounds that the Dems are now the majority.

We shan't even mention that diseases are communicable and that vaccinations and checkups for children benefit everyone, not just the people who are receiving them. If you're born and raised on nothing but Conservative dogma however, its difficult to understand just how interconnected our fates actually are.

On the grounds that the Dems are now the majority.
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No, the Repubs were pretty much opposed to SCHIP when they were in the majority. There is something providing health care access to a wider group of Americans that drives them crazy.
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@shepherd They don't care that preventive health care is a money saver. SCHIP is an example of government doing what it's supposed to do and that runs counter to GOP thinking. Let the market run freely. See how well it worked out for banking and home mortgages.

Textee: Time magazine is surprised that confiscating property from some Americans to give to other Americans produces a "growing demand" from the takers?
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I liked the Daily Show skit on SCHIP from a while back:
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http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=109140&title=banned-aid

davemc321: But enough did vote to expand SCHIP the last time around. Of course not enough to override the veto. Maybe that was all for show.

Thanks for that Daily Show link, JJ. I saw it at the time and thought it was spot on. Of course the Repubs won't get it.
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So, I've been away since last Thursday and we lost the numbers? May I hope that this is a first step to losing pagination?
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I particularly noticed because when I started to catch up with the comments, several people made reference to other comments in the thread by number, but there were no numbers.

And, KT was moved out of alphabetical order and is now first in line. Does that reflect her taking over more of the heavy lifting, including reading comments in posts other than her own?

The Republicans could always support SCHIP under the premise that providing health care to disadvantaged children might make the decision easier for lower income women to bring said children into the world in the first place. Isn't that major part of the the GOP platform? But somehow when it comes to supporting someone who has actually been born is never popular with our friends across the aisle.

I suspect it was showtime, Art. But I live in Texas, where 21 percent of the children have no access to health insurance. So I'm a little cynical about Congress and health care.

actually watched a lot of the Senate debate today over SCHIP and it was very interesting. First off Coburn basically called the Democrats, wait I am mistating this. First off Coburn CALLED the Democrats liars and said they were playing with the numbers. He went on to say that because not all of the children eligible for SCHIP are actually signed up for the program then that what they really need to do is just sign up more people, not expand the program. Then another Rethug got up there (I can't remember his name) and complained about the compromises that you refer to in the post. According to him he is worried about adults (read mothers of the kids) being given SCHIP coverage and he said that SCHIP was just a way of getting around Medicaid funding because the states don't have to reimburse as much when the funding is through SCHIP. Then Coburn got back up and said no kids go without preventative care because nobody could come up with a number that do. To say I wanted to reach through the Tee Vee and start choking the sh1t out of these ass holes is an understatment. And I really have to wonder what kind of dumb ass bubble they live in where they really believe that their constituents who are losing their jobs and getting kicked off of their insurance every day are going to appreciate them phucking around playing politics instead of getting the job done. They are so busy trying to focus on illegal alien kids that they would rather keep our children deprived of health care than see one child of an illegal get coverage. What a phucked up country we live in where people actually vote these kind of jack ass es into office over and over again.
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Sorry for ranting

K Tizzle
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Somersby is full of sh!t today. And even he knows it as in the way he closes the post. The truth is the OMB themselves said it was not an official report. How does that jibe with the bullsh!t that Sommersby is shoveling? The funny thing was he had the lede up yesterday before the actual CBO official report came out and I was waiting to see how he was going to try to transition form intimating everyone who said the report didn't exist was wrong yesterday to admitting it really wasn't an official report today. Needless to say when boxed in he/she will find a way to still push ahead.

The democrats need better PR people. Have James Earl Jones's voice come in over four huge letters. WWRD. Jones would solemnly pronounce "Ronnie would have wanted it this way". Show sick, scruffy, poor white children getting vaccinations and then cut to a scene showing healthy young adults mowing the lawns, serving drinks by the pool and fawning over their saviors. The sick children of today can be the minimum wage earners of tomorrow. It might work.