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		<title>By: The End of Israeli Democracy? - The Plank</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/12/arab-parties-banned-in-israel/comment-page-4/#comment-33968</link>
		<dc:creator>The End of Israeli Democracy? - The Plank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] than a few bloggers have jumped on the news that the Israeli Knesset&#039;s Central Elections Committee voted [...]</description>
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		<title>By: هاآرتص: اسراییل اقلیت بیست درصدی [اعراب] را از حضور در انتخابات محروم کرد : تردید دات نت</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/12/arab-parties-banned-in-israel/comment-page-3/#comment-33793</link>
		<dc:creator>هاآرتص: اسراییل اقلیت بیست درصدی [اعراب] را از حضور در انتخابات محروم کرد : تردید دات نت</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] این مورد مایکل شرر، نویسنده مجله تایم نقطه نظر جالبی دارد. وی در مطلبی که [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] این مورد مایکل شرر، نویسنده مجله تایم نقطه نظر جالبی دارد. وی در مطلبی که [...]</p>
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		<title>By: هاآرتص: اسراییل اقلیت بیست درصدی [اعراب] را از حضور در انتخابات محروم کرد &#171; جایی برای پرسش</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/12/arab-parties-banned-in-israel/comment-page-3/#comment-33792</link>
		<dc:creator>هاآرتص: اسراییل اقلیت بیست درصدی [اعراب] را از حضور در انتخابات محروم کرد &#171; جایی برای پرسش</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] این مورد مایکل شرر، نویسنده مجله تایم نقطه نظر جالبی دارد. وی در مطلبی که [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] این مورد مایکل شرر، نویسنده مجله تایم نقطه نظر جالبی دارد. وی در مطلبی که [...]</p>
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		<title>By: viciousmaniac</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/12/arab-parties-banned-in-israel/comment-page-3/#comment-33772</link>
		<dc:creator>viciousmaniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile, British press pats American MSM on the head for not (entirely) playing the role of apologist/sycophant to Israel this time round.  Good job, I suppose.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/jan/13/us-media-israel-gaza</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, British press pats American MSM on the head for not (entirely) playing the role of apologist/sycophant to Israel this time round.  Good job, I suppose.<br />
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<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/jan/13/us-media-israel-gaza" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/jan/13/us-media-israel-gaza</a></p>
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		<title>By: fhmadvocat</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/12/arab-parties-banned-in-israel/comment-page-3/#comment-33760</link>
		<dc:creator>fhmadvocat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, by the way, there is a Jewish member of the Iranian parliament.  However, I don&#039;t know if he belons to a particular party or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, by the way, there is a Jewish member of the Iranian parliament.  However, I don't know if he belons to a particular party or not.</p>
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		<title>By: fhmadvocat</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/12/arab-parties-banned-in-israel/comment-page-3/#comment-33758</link>
		<dc:creator>fhmadvocat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Israelis have a funny thing about banning organizations . . . . .
During the 1970&#039;s and early 80&#039;s they banned the Palestinian Liberation Organization . . . . . 
While allowing the forerunner of HAMAS to operate in the West Bank and especially Gaza  . . . . . . .
Now look who is doing the shooting and who is willing to negotiate . . . . . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Israelis have a funny thing about banning organizations . . . . .<br />
During the 1970's and early 80's they banned the Palestinian Liberation Organization . . . . .<br />
While allowing the forerunner of HAMAS to operate in the West Bank and especially Gaza  . . . . . . .<br />
Now look who is doing the shooting and who is willing to negotiate . . . . . . .</p>
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		<title>By: fhmadvocat</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/12/arab-parties-banned-in-israel/comment-page-3/#comment-33757</link>
		<dc:creator>fhmadvocat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me see . . . . . .
Kadima and Labor members who meet secretly and negotiate with the Syrians in Turkey are In . . . . . . 
But Arab MKs who meet openly in Syria to discuss peace are Out . . . . . 
What does that say about Israeli democracy?
Evidently, someone wants to ban UAL because his feelings were hurt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me see . . . . . .<br />
Kadima and Labor members who meet secretly and negotiate with the Syrians in Turkey are In . . . . . .<br />
But Arab MKs who meet openly in Syria to discuss peace are Out . . . . .<br />
What does that say about Israeli democracy?<br />
Evidently, someone wants to ban UAL because his feelings were hurt!</p>
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		<title>By: cfukara</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/12/arab-parties-banned-in-israel/comment-page-3/#comment-33747</link>
		<dc:creator>cfukara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pres Bush was constantly updated on what our representatives - and good Americans - were negotiating at the UN as part of the mandate the Americans gave them - to protect our national security and our interests.

A foreigner, a sovereign leader of a foreign sovereign nation, has hereby clearly demonstrated overriding say over our interests and actions - and exercised coercive power over sovereign USA, our interests and our president.  
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1) Is there a present danger to our national security  when a foreigner dictates what we do at the highest levels of diplomacy and foreign policy? Is a congressional investigation warranted?

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2) What is the nature of that peremptory power wielded by the foreigner over our USA and our leader?

[[There are tools (in our bag of intelligence operations and psyche warfare) which we employ when we go about getting foreigners and foreign leaders to do our bidding -  money, ideology, compromise, ego. Are foreigners using the same on us and our leaders?  Do we need to know if that is so and to what extent - as a matter of utmost urgency? ]]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pres Bush was constantly updated on what our representatives - and good Americans - were negotiating at the UN as part of the mandate the Americans gave them - to protect our national security and our interests.</p>
<p>A foreigner, a sovereign leader of a foreign sovereign nation, has hereby clearly demonstrated overriding say over our interests and actions - and exercised coercive power over sovereign USA, our interests and our president.<br />
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1) Is there a present danger to our national security  when a foreigner dictates what we do at the highest levels of diplomacy and foreign policy? Is a congressional investigation warranted?</p>
<p>.<br />
2) What is the nature of that peremptory power wielded by the foreigner over our USA and our leader?</p>
<p>[[There are tools (in our bag of intelligence operations and psyche warfare) which we employ when we go about getting foreigners and foreign leaders to do our bidding -  money, ideology, compromise, ego. Are foreigners using the same on us and our leaders?  Do we need to know if that is so and to what extent - as a matter of utmost urgency? ]]</p>
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		<title>By: cfukara</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/12/arab-parties-banned-in-israel/comment-page-3/#comment-33735</link>
		<dc:creator>cfukara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bbpdx Says:
&lt;i&gt;Israel&#039;s Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, &quot;US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was left shamed....I said &#039;get me President Bush on the phone ... &lt;b&gt;I need to talk to him now&lt;/b&gt;&#039;. &lt;i&gt;He got off the podium and spoke to me.&lt;/i&gt; .. I told him the United States could not vote in favour....  He immediately called the secretary of state and told her not to vote in favour.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;


1)  &#039;Deja vu all over again!&#039; someone yelled.  
Do I remember a similar shame befalling another worthy African-American,  Colin Powell? 
And in the same Bush administration!
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2) Poor Condoleeza,  she had a jolly good time strutting all over Africa trashing their constitutions, declaring their elections null and void, rubbishing their elected leaders and ordering presidents in Africa to obey the dictates of (white) USA-UK-EU axis of ? .. 
Amazing! It seems as if the African-Americans have not yet grasped the rudiments and realities of hegemony, survival and extinction in this dog-eat-dog world.
Hopefully, time is on their side.
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3) He-who-must-be-obeyed wants to speak to you NOW.  You must drop everything you were doing and rush to receive your orders.  
&quot;Yes, Bwana!&quot;
Is there one among you who still doesn&#039;t know, or suspect, who the real superpower is? 
And ours is still the land of the brave and the free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bbpdx Says:<br />
<i>Israel's Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, "US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was left shamed....I said 'get me President Bush on the phone ... <b>I need to talk to him now</b>'. </i><i>He got off the podium and spoke to me.</i> .. I told him the United States could not vote in favour....  He immediately called the secretary of state and told her not to vote in favour." </p>
<p>1)  'Deja vu all over again!' someone yelled.<br />
Do I remember a similar shame befalling another worthy African-American,  Colin Powell?<br />
And in the same Bush administration!<br />
. </p>
<p>2) Poor Condoleeza,  she had a jolly good time strutting all over Africa trashing their constitutions, declaring their elections null and void, rubbishing their elected leaders and ordering presidents in Africa to obey the dictates of (white) USA-UK-EU axis of ? ..<br />
Amazing! It seems as if the African-Americans have not yet grasped the rudiments and realities of hegemony, survival and extinction in this dog-eat-dog world.<br />
Hopefully, time is on their side.<br />
.<br />
3) He-who-must-be-obeyed wants to speak to you NOW.  You must drop everything you were doing and rush to receive your orders.<br />
"Yes, Bwana!"<br />
Is there one among you who still doesn't know, or suspect, who the real superpower is?<br />
And ours is still the land of the brave and the free.</p>
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		<title>By: pintortwo</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/12/arab-parties-banned-in-israel/comment-page-3/#comment-33728</link>
		<dc:creator>pintortwo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pourme- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gD-QcI_C-CrcqfSZBh6A5_e514Zw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AFP gives more quotes&lt;/a&gt; from Olmert than the NYT link:
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&lt;i&gt;&quot;She (Rice) was left shamed. A resolution that she prepared and arranged, and in the end she did not vote in favour,&quot; Olmert said in a speech in the southern town of Ashkelon.
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(snip)
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&lt;i&gt;&quot;In the night between Thursday and Friday, when the secretary of state wanted to lead the vote on a ceasefire at the Security Council, we did not want her to vote in favour,&quot; Olmert said.
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&lt;i&gt;&quot;I said &#039;get me President Bush on the phone&#039;. They said he was in the middle of giving a speech in Philadelphia. I said I didn&#039;t care. &#039;I need to talk to him now&#039;. He got off the podium and spoke to me.
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&lt;i&gt;&quot;I told him the United States could not vote in favour. It cannot vote in favour of such a resolution. He immediately called the secretary of state and told her not to vote in favour.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pourme- <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gD-QcI_C-CrcqfSZBh6A5_e514Zw" rel="nofollow">AFP gives more quotes</a> from Olmert than the NYT link:<br />
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<i>"She (Rice) was left shamed. A resolution that she prepared and arranged, and in the end she did not vote in favour," Olmert said in a speech in the southern town of Ashkelon.<br />
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(snip)<br />
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</i><i>"In the night between Thursday and Friday, when the secretary of state wanted to lead the vote on a ceasefire at the Security Council, we did not want her to vote in favour," Olmert said.<br />
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</i><i>"I said 'get me President Bush on the phone'. They said he was in the middle of giving a speech in Philadelphia. I said I didn't care. 'I need to talk to him now'. He got off the podium and spoke to me.<br />
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</i><i>"I told him the United States could not vote in favour. It cannot vote in favour of such a resolution. He immediately called the secretary of state and told her not to vote in favour."<br />
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