Comments on: Latest Column http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/08/latest-column-8/ A blog about politics. Wed, 09 Dec 2009 06:39:33 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: rodmorelander http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/08/latest-column-8/comment-page-3/#comment-33818 rodmorelander Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:16:23 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9524#comment-33818 I think the article was just another intellectual's dig at someone they don't understand, and the problem is this kind of thing is sucked up by other idiots around the web who don't even stop to think - I just read another fool, woman named laurenonpnn.com who repeats all the same gibberish, wonder where she got it from? duh. I think the article was just another intellectual's dig at someone they don't understand, and the problem is this kind of thing is sucked up by other idiots around the web who don't even stop to think - I just read another fool, woman named laurenonpnn.com who repeats all the same gibberish, wonder where she got it from? duh.

]]> By: cincinnatus est exterminata! http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/08/latest-column-8/comment-page-2/#comment-32827 cincinnatus est exterminata! Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:14:40 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9524#comment-32827 I wash. Just not today. I wash. Just not today.

]]> By: James, Los Angeles http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/08/latest-column-8/comment-page-2/#comment-32812 James, Los Angeles Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:38:10 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9524#comment-32812 There you go again, Dee. No one called you stupid. That's an inaccurate statement that goes nowhere. I don't know where you get these wild accusations. If you want a "richer" discussion, then great, why not make your case and can the finger-wagging and tut-tutting and name-calling? Just state your case like the rest of us do. You don't need to start off your argument by bashing people, and tut-tutting. It's offputting. There you go again, Dee. No one called you stupid. That's an inaccurate statement that goes nowhere. I don't know where you get these wild accusations. If you want a "richer" discussion, then great, why not make your case and can the finger-wagging and tut-tutting and name-calling? Just state your case like the rest of us do. You don't need to start off your argument by bashing people, and tut-tutting. It's offputting.

]]> By: Dee in Columbia MD http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/08/latest-column-8/comment-page-2/#comment-32788 Dee in Columbia MD Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:19:23 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9524#comment-32788 Okay James let me say this slower. I am not talking about whether they did anything wrong although I was willing to include that in this discussion after the suggestion by Paul Dirks that we were jumping the gun and assuming the administration's guilt. My post was about having a conversation about 1) whether pursuing criminal charges was the only avenue to ensure that we reassert our values and prevent a departure from our values from happening in the future and 2) that if we pursued criminal charges were there any consequences that might make that path unwise. Lastly, I suggested that we have a richer discussion of what means for addressing this issue were at our disposal and what would be the pros and cons of each. Now I have tried to be polite but I don't appreciate being called stupid. especially by someone who has demonstrated an inability to comprehend simple concepts. And when you talk about DC lites h9w many do you know? Okay James let me say this slower. I am not talking about whether they did anything wrong although I was willing to include that in this discussion after the suggestion by Paul Dirks that we were jumping the gun and assuming the administration's guilt. My post was about having a conversation about 1) whether pursuing criminal charges was the only avenue to ensure that we reassert our values and prevent a departure from our values from happening in the future and 2) that if we pursued criminal charges were there any consequences that might make that path unwise. Lastly, I suggested that we have a richer discussion of what means for addressing this issue were at our disposal and what would be the pros and cons of each. Now I have tried to be polite but I don't appreciate being called stupid. especially by someone who has demonstrated an inability to comprehend simple concepts. And when you talk about DC lites h9w many do you know?

]]> By: James, Los Angeles http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/08/latest-column-8/comment-page-2/#comment-32772 James, Los Angeles Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:59:18 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9524#comment-32772 Dee, your last sentence simply makes no sense. . It is a habit of yours to start your post off with finger-wagging and tut-tutting and that kind of takes the edge off any argument you may make about the issue at hand. It's pretty off-putting. . I thought we *were* having that discussion right now that you are asking for. Yet you tut-tut those of us who are trying to have the discussion. It isn't just ocurring here,it's a national discussion. The DC elite is trying to tamp it down, don't you see that? . Also, as I said, there is irrefutable evidence of wrongdoing, and public admissions of responsibility by the prinicipals. There is eyewitness testimony under oath. There are dead people, okay? Hundreds of them. There are victims still alive and able and willing to testify. What more do you want? to sweep this under the rug? That seems like enough to open a criminal investigation and call for testimony; that's hardly asking for anyone's "head on a pike." In case you forgot, that's the way we *do* it here in America. . Dee, your last sentence simply makes no sense.
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It is a habit of yours to start your post off with finger-wagging and tut-tutting and that kind of takes the edge off any argument you may make about the issue at hand. It's pretty off-putting.
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I thought we *were* having that discussion right now that you are asking for. Yet you tut-tut those of us who are trying to have the discussion. It isn't just ocurring here,it's a national discussion. The DC elite is trying to tamp it down, don't you see that?
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Also, as I said, there is irrefutable evidence of wrongdoing, and public admissions of responsibility by the prinicipals. There is eyewitness testimony under oath. There are dead people, okay? Hundreds of them. There are victims still alive and able and willing to testify. What more do you want? to sweep this under the rug? That seems like enough to open a criminal investigation and call for testimony; that's hardly asking for anyone's "head on a pike." In case you forgot, that's the way we *do* it here in America.
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]]> By: shepherdwong http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/08/latest-column-8/comment-page-2/#comment-32771 shepherdwong Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:47:54 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9524#comment-32771 "But I don't think there's much congressional appetite for that sort of action, nor does it exist among the newsers that rode shotgun with the administration." . Well, they don't even understand their own jobs. Bush, Cheney, Addington and Yoo's crimes were crimes against the world, not just US law. Turn them over to the Hague. "But I don't think there's much congressional appetite for that sort of action, nor does it exist among the newsers that rode shotgun with the administration."
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Well, they don't even understand their own jobs. Bush, Cheney, Addington and Yoo's crimes were crimes against the world, not just US law. Turn them over to the Hague.

]]> By: pintortwo http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/08/latest-column-8/comment-page-2/#comment-32766 pintortwo Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:25:33 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9524#comment-32766 Upon further review: . "<i>But I don't think there's much</i> congressional <i>appetite for that sort of action</i>, nor does it exist among the newsers that rode shotgun with the administration." . Ah, better... Upon further review:
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"But I don't think there's much congressional appetite for that sort of action, nor does it exist among the newsers that rode shotgun with the administration."
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Ah, better...

]]> By: Andy from MA http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/08/latest-column-8/comment-page-2/#comment-32761 Andy from MA Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:58:17 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9524#comment-32761 jayackroyd, here's a great compendium of Bush lowlights. http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/01/08/damage/index.html jayackroyd, here's a great compendium of Bush lowlights.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/01/08/damage/index.html

]]> By: jayackroyd http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/08/latest-column-8/comment-page-2/#comment-32760 jayackroyd Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:56:22 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9524#comment-32760 Another off topic reminder that I'm talking to James Fallows at <a href="http://virtuallyspeaking.ning.com/" rel="nofollow">Virtually Speaking</a> tonight at 9pm eastern. You can listen to the simulcast at the web site. Another off topic reminder that I'm talking to James Fallows at Virtually Speaking tonight at 9pm eastern. You can listen to the simulcast at the web site.

]]> By: Andy from MA http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/08/latest-column-8/comment-page-2/#comment-32754 Andy from MA Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:35:55 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9524#comment-32754 There's even a huge appetite for those of us who wash every day. No offense James or Cincy. There's even a huge appetite for those of us who wash every day. No offense James or Cincy.

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