Comments on: Hillary Clinton Haunted By Her Tax Break Pork http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/05/hillary-clinton-haunted-by-her-tax-break-pork/ A blog about politics. Wed, 09 Dec 2009 07:50:49 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: greenlyfe http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/05/hillary-clinton-haunted-by-her-tax-break-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-31926 greenlyfe Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:12:34 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9398#comment-31926 (1) The insinuations about the Clintons are not substantiated and the clear fact that Bill Clinton's foundation is a charitable organization that does incredible amount of good must also be taken into consideration IMO. The snarkiness isn't necessary. (2) The piece you linked too is just bad. The title is insulting and belittling the president-elect IMO. And the insinuation that Barack Obama is grandstanding and might not be able to get this deal done neglects the facts: first of all the terms of the debate have been set on Obama's terms, second in doing these tax cuts he fulfills his campaign promises and looks bipartisan and gains good will from the public that paves the way to stimulus spending and three he has sky high approval ratings and the bully pulpit in fifteen days. So far, he's been the one winning the battles. This post and the piece you wrote were Republican talking points; talking to the other side sometimes is a good thing. (1) The insinuations about the Clintons are not substantiated and the clear fact that Bill Clinton's foundation is a charitable organization that does incredible amount of good must also be taken into consideration IMO. The snarkiness isn't necessary.

(2) The piece you linked too is just bad. The title is insulting and belittling the president-elect IMO. And the insinuation that Barack Obama is grandstanding and might not be able to get this deal done neglects the facts: first of all the terms of the debate have been set on Obama's terms, second in doing these tax cuts he fulfills his campaign promises and looks bipartisan and gains good will from the public that paves the way to stimulus spending and three he has sky high approval ratings and the bully pulpit in fifteen days. So far, he's been the one winning the battles.

This post and the piece you wrote were Republican talking points; talking to the other side sometimes is a good thing.

]]> By: rose83 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/05/hillary-clinton-haunted-by-her-tax-break-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-31920 rose83 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:41:51 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9398#comment-31920 MS, good post. -- BTW, $100,000 is nothing compared to what he received. Which is the only thing that suggests HRC may have done this without a donation. Bill Clinton can make $100,000 for one speech, and I suspect she had to spend a significant amount of time and political capital in pushing this through. Undoubtedly Blago could have extracted much more! MS, good post.
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BTW, $100,000 is nothing compared to what he received. Which is the only thing that suggests HRC may have done this without a donation. Bill Clinton can make $100,000 for one speech, and I suspect she had to spend a significant amount of time and political capital in pushing this through. Undoubtedly Blago could have extracted much more!

]]> By: Paul Dirks http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/05/hillary-clinton-haunted-by-her-tax-break-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-31895 Paul Dirks Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:41:14 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9398#comment-31895 <i>who have overseen the terrific expansion of often wasteful federal spending over the last decade</i> . Don't forget that one person's 'wasteful spending' can be another person 'research budget'. I recall that many of the projects that McCain made fun of during the campaign we're precisely the sort of investments in knowlege that pay significantly down the road. Think of where we'd be today if research into alternative energy had actually been generously funded 30 years ago when then oncoming problem was already clearly visible to those paying attention. who have overseen the terrific expansion of often wasteful federal spending over the last decade
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Don't forget that one person's 'wasteful spending' can be another person 'research budget'. I recall that many of the projects that McCain made fun of during the campaign we're precisely the sort of investments in knowlege that pay significantly down the road. Think of where we'd be today if research into alternative energy had actually been generously funded 30 years ago when then oncoming problem was already clearly visible to those paying attention.

]]> By: wvng http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/05/hillary-clinton-haunted-by-her-tax-break-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-31887 wvng Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:33:42 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9398#comment-31887 OT, but useful info. Tom Ricks has a new blog at Foreign Policy. . http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/ . Smart guy. Had this to say about the Bolton-Yoo op-ed: . <a href="http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/node/14904" rel="nofollow">NYT op-ed page tortures me with an unreadable article by John Bolton AND John Yoo. Frankly, I'd rather be waterboarded. Bolton also bloviates on the Post op-ed page. Could we at least have a decent interval before these guys start telling Obama what to do? Please? This feels like Herbert Hoover holding forth on the New Deal.</a> . heh. OT, but useful info. Tom Ricks has a new blog at Foreign Policy.
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Smart guy. Had this to say about the Bolton-Yoo op-ed:
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NYT op-ed page tortures me with an unreadable article by John Bolton AND John Yoo. Frankly, I'd rather be waterboarded. Bolton also bloviates on the Post op-ed page. Could we at least have a decent interval before these guys start telling Obama what to do? Please? This feels like Herbert Hoover holding forth on the New Deal.
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heh.

]]> By: Cliff http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/05/hillary-clinton-haunted-by-her-tax-break-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-31884 Cliff Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:29:49 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9398#comment-31884 If you care about national parks that much, Scherer, you should thank your lucky stars your BFF McCain didn't get the office. If you care about national parks that much, Scherer, you should thank your lucky stars your BFF McCain didn't get the office.

]]> By: jayackroyd http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/05/hillary-clinton-haunted-by-her-tax-break-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-31871 jayackroyd Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:10:20 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9398#comment-31871 I just have this feeling that Clinton is piker next to the senior senator from New York. He deals in the tens of billions to his patrons. I just have this feeling that Clinton is piker next to the senior senator from New York. He deals in the tens of billions to his patrons.

]]> By: pourmecoffee http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/05/hillary-clinton-haunted-by-her-tax-break-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-31868 pourmecoffee Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:06:51 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9398#comment-31868 Get your MS hauntings straight, people! <a href="http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/12/09/blagogate-obamas-burden/" rel="nofollow">BlagoGate</a> is haunting Obama; this donation is haunting Clinton. I hope TIME doesn't have to send someone over to check under your bed at night. You are very easily haunted. Get your MS hauntings straight, people! BlagoGate is haunting Obama; this donation is haunting Clinton. I hope TIME doesn't have to send someone over to check under your bed at night. You are very easily haunted.

]]> By: Cookie Puss http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/05/hillary-clinton-haunted-by-her-tax-break-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-31864 Cookie Puss Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:01:36 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9398#comment-31864 Why does Tim Kaine have Slobodan Milosevic's haircut? Why does Tim Kaine have Slobodan Milosevic's haircut?

]]> By: wvng http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/05/hillary-clinton-haunted-by-her-tax-break-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-31863 wvng Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:00:39 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9398#comment-31863 I'm so glad that Cheney isn't haunted by his ties to Haliburton, and his love of "the dark side." Were it so, I'm certain MS would report on it. I'm so glad that Cheney isn't haunted by his ties to Haliburton, and his love of "the dark side." Were it so, I'm certain MS would report on it.

]]> By: dunedweller http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/01/05/hillary-clinton-haunted-by-her-tax-break-pork/comment-page-1/#comment-31862 dunedweller Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:59:55 +0000 http://swampland.blogs.time.com/?p=9398#comment-31862 MS: Is Obama haunted by the haunting of HRC? MS: Is Obama haunted by the haunting of HRC?

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