Comments on: Staying Connected

By: shepherdwong

shepherdwong — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:23:37 +0000

"Well kattest, Swampland might be moonbat territory but it's hard to get banned unless you start threatening people." . Doh! Just when he's discovered that GOPers ban people simply to avoid undermining the authoritarian-led propaganda point of the day. Happy New Year!

By: shepherdwong

shepherdwong — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 20:59:52 +0000

"The GOP's resolution for 2009 might be to figure out this whole internets thing." Perhaps they should try to figure out this whole reality thing first. Then they go on to the whole humanity, society and government things. Then maybe they can come up with something worth communicating.

By: berkeleyfarm

berkeleyfarm — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:17:29 +0000

JJ: Indeed. The tensions between the "Moral Majority" type voters and the old-school "country club" type Republicans have been evident since the days of, well, the Moral Majority's rise. There are certainly fewer of the latter around since I was a wee bit lassie. But how the Republican party manages the tension will determine its future success. Unfortunately the Dominionists within the party have a big agenda (um, theocracy, anyone?) and tend not to be interested in negotiation and compromise, believing themselves on a mission from God.

By: Cliff

Cliff — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:30:05 +0000

Well kattest, Swampland might be moonbat territory but it's hard to get banned unless you start threatening people.

By: kattest123

kattest123 — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:11:14 +0000

Interesting. 1. For my fans, here's a pic of me and my tool. 2. Here's more on RedState.

By: JJ

JJ — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:45:01 +0000

...the Web 2.0 stuff only really (IMO) levelled the playing field with the Religious Right using churches or para-church organizations to GOTV. I liked Josh Marshall's concise analysis from a while back about how the GOP establishment really only likes the religious right if it stays in its place as a source of GOTV grunts and not much else.

By: berkeleyfarm

berkeleyfarm — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:27:44 +0000

"The GOP's resolution for 2009 might be to figure out this whole internets thing."
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But, but ... wouldn't that be like community organizing? (LOL)
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All snark asides, they need to do that, but the Web 2.0 stuff only really (IMO) levelled the playing field with the Religious Right using churches or para-church organizations to GOTV.
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They also need to figure out how to keep the Paulistas (who are very wired-in) from dominating the online conversation. Everything I've seen so far (rebuildtheparty.com being a notable example) had the Paulistas all over, out of all proportion to their actual percentage of the party. (Speaking of rebuildtheparty, there were some merry pranksters as well due to poorly-thought-out site security.)

By: Paul Dirks

Paul Dirks — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:12:47 +0000

In Amy's defense, during the campaign, I did encounter much of the same doubts she was expressing. That those doubts originated from the circle-jerk formation of CW spinners that make up our mediascape is a fundemental fact. The ability to see the phenomenon is a good litmus test to separate Villagers from DFH's. Welcome to the interface, Amy.

By: pintortwo

pintortwo — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:12:03 +0000

The reason they're not connected is that the repubs live in a world that pre-dates the internets. Where men with crew-cuts protect the country (and their daughters) from dirty pinko hippies. You might as well ask them why they haven't taken advantage of the telleporter.
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And Kattest/NoMore- The "deeper problem" you face trying to get your people "roused" is that many here are well-informed and will make substantive arguments. I think the crowd you're pitching is information-adverse.

By: g_crush

g_crush — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:03:48 +0000

. pourmecoffee: Still hungry for more. . Nice snark, but be careful what you wish for...Kattest/Blather/Lonewacko has been blogwhoring her particular brand of xenophobic lunacy all over the Intertubes for years. Takes a lot for a right-winger to get banned from Redstate and QandO for being too freakin' crazy. . Sullivan: The GOP's resolution for 2009 might be to figure out this whole internets thing. . I'd like to reiterate the weakness of the 'some said' argument stated earlier...I'd also like to mention that you'd have to be blind as a Beltway bat not to see that it wasn't the GOP's lack of online organization that cost them the election. It was their failure to effectively govern, do right by We The People, hold themselves accountable, and put forth a set of policy proposals to which the majority would respond favorably. . Believe it or not, I actually do applaud the effort on the Repubs' part to figure out what's wrong with them. I'm afraid that effort will fail, not due to lack of online expertise, but due to the fact that they will have to be different, which their ideology won't allow.