Obama, Gays and the Radical Pragmatism of the Separately Equal
On his website, Change.gov, Barack Obama lists his gay and lesbian agenda under the heading of "Civil Rights." It is, without any doubt, a very liberal plan: allow gays to serve openly in the military, expand hate crimes statutes, support same-sex civil unions, oppose a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, and expand adoption rights for gays and lesbians. The platform, however, makes no mention of supporting gay marriage, because, well, Obama does not support giving gay couples the right to civil marriage. This is, it must be said, a rather conventional position for a Democrat to take, and it is widely seen as politically savvy. Around the country, voters continue to reject the idea of gay "marriage," even as the nation becomes more comfortable with the idea of gay rights.
Obama himself has suggested that his position on gay marriage arises less from a personal conviction than from a tactical know-how. Back during the primaries, Obama explained that "marriage" was not the best terrain to fight for gay rights.
Look, when my parents got married in 1961, it would have been illegal for them to be married in a number of states in the South. So obviously, this is something that I understand intimately, it's something that I care about. But if I were advising the civil rights movement back in 1961 about its approach to civil rights, I would have probably said it's less important that we focus on an anti-miscegenation law than we focus on a voting rights law and a non-discrimination and employment law and all the legal rights that are conferred by the state. Now, it's not for me to suggest that you shouldn't be troubled by these issues. But my job as president is going to be to make sure that the legal rights that have consequences on a day to day basis for loving same sex couples all across the country.
This is a remarkably complex, if only subtly controversial, argument. He suggests that laws preventing gay marriage are as unjust as laws preventing interracial marriage, the very union that led to his own birth. But he further argues that the best way to fight this injustice is to indefinitely cede the central moral argument--that in America all men (and women) must be treated equal--and rather score incremental victories that push the nation in the right direction. In Obama's formulation, it would have been indefinitely acceptable for interracial couples to be denied the rights of civil marriage, if other progress was being made to advance racial equality. In the same way, it is indefinitely acceptable for gay couples to be denied the right to civil marriage, if other progress is being made to give gay couples similar rights. There is an unstated assumption here: If Obama is successful he will clear the way for a subsequent politician to support gay marriage, just as the broader civil rights movement cleared the way for an end to anti-miscegenation laws in 1967 by the (activist?) U.S. Supreme Court.
Whatever advantages this approach scores tactically, it also carries with it a cost. Namely, Obama effectively cedes the clarity of a moral argument for gay rights equality. He cannot argue that separate is not equal, because he is endorsing a separate system for gay and lesbian couples, an accommodation that seems, on its face, to contradict a central principle of the civil rights movement, as laid out in 1954 by the (activist?) U.S. Supreme Court in Brown v. Board of Education.
I write all this now (from vacation, no less) because I think Obama's gay rights approach is at the heart of the backlash over his inaugural invitation to Rick Warren, a popular California pastor who opposes any sanctioning of same-sex unions. Those who have objected most strongly have objected to Obama's choice on fundamentally moral grounds. The selection, they argue, endorses something un-American. Would he invite a segregationist to speak? Would he invite an anti-semite? TIME's John Cloud compares the Warren invitation to the one-time adoration of Richard Russell Jr., the segregationist Georgia senator who put a warm face on southern opposition to Civil Rights. Joe Solmonese, who heads the Human Rights Campaign, asks "[W]ould any inaugural committee say to Jewish Americans, 'We're opening with an anti-Semite but closing the program with a rabbi, so don't worry'?"
The objections of Cloud, Solmonese and many others are based on the idea that Obama is behaving like a hypocrite. "Obama also said [Thursday] that he is a 'fierce advocate for equality' for gays, which is — given his opposition to equal marriage rights — simply a lie," writes Cloud. But there is a consitency at the heart of Obama's position. He campaigned on the promise that he would not demonize, reject or even contest those Americans who believe that gay couples should not have the same rights to marriage as straight couples. He promised not to make the big moral argument, but rather to score the incremental victories. Rather than hypocrisy, Obama is demonstrating the radical pragmatism that has marked his entire career. If there is now buyer's remorse, this is its true source. If there is now shock, it is because Obama's campaign papered over just how radically pragmantic its candidate planned to be.
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MS I hope you're enjoying your vacation. We are...but seriously folks:
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I understand the consternation, anger and frustration by many with Obama selecting Rick Warren to come to the inauguration. But after giving this some deep thought, there is not going ever be a constitutional amemdment or any federal law to allow marriage between two gay people; not in next 8 years. This will happen at the local level.
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Just like Reagan and the Bushes were never going to constitutionally ban abortion. It wasn't going to happen.
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I thought Obama's pragmatism was pretty transparent (not papered over) and while some think he is driving a knife between the shoulder blades of the gay community, I disagree.
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As replusive as I find the absolutism and intolerance of the fundamentalists, Obama has to walk the talk of his campaign.
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After all he didn't give Joe Lieberman the heave-ho for what Lieberman did in the campaign, turncoat that Joe is. So as you contribute to the media feeding frenzy that is this story, my judgment on Obama will be after he starts governing, which is 31 days from now.
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He's got the next eight years to have gay relationships legally treated just like straight relationships. By then the country might just be ready for gay marriage, and so may Obama. -
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Interesting discussion, MS. Quick note: check out your spelling of "accommodation" in the 5th paragraph (including the quote block as one paragraph). You may want to change that.
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I understand his pragmatism on this issue, and I can't say I'm infuriated by his choice of Warren (maybe because I'm too busy for fury this holiday season)...but it's certainly not the choice I would have wished Obama to make. I think you nailed why it makes me uncomfortable when you noted, "Obama effectively cedes the clarity of a moral argument for gay rights equality."
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I'm really torn on this issue. I've followed the argument on other threads, and everyone makes legitimate points. I guess there are limits to my pragmatism, however. I would find it difficult to be in the same room with Warren because of what he said, never mind deliberately choosing him as a major player at my inauguration. But I guess that's why I'm not a politician. -
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MLK decried the
moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; ... Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
As true today as then, as Michael makes clear above. But Michael is also correct that Obama never promised to be a prophet. He is a pragmatist.
I fear that the pragmatist's goodwill is easily exploited by the scoundrels that constitute the right wing of today's politics. I believe that a handful of Republicans in the Senate will rule our country for the next four years because of the pragmatist tendencies of our all-too-polite Democratic party.
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postxian - My take on the Dems in Congress is that they're wimpy not pragmatic.
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Suzie, thanks. fixed.
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MS-
This is probably the most insightful and analytical post I have seen you make here yet. I admit to normally loathing your work, so apparently the vacation has done you quite a bit of good.Yes, that was a backhanded compliment, but keep it up and the backhanded part will go away.
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By his choice to begin his presidency with a blessing from a homophobic, anti-reproductive rights, anti-Jewish, -Muslim, etc., creationist, Obama is sending one message to the nation and the world and it is not a message that can be printed on a Time magazine blog.
To those attending the inauguration, please join others in singing "We Shall Overcome" throughout the invocation. The subtleties of Obama's "separate but equal" rationale notwithstanding, let the people sing out against bigotry, even when the bigot has the bully pulpit.
The Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com
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Nice take Michael. But I'm afraid that, much as I'd like to, I can't just call Obama's hypocrisy on this issue pragmatism and make it all feel better. He's on the wrong side of this issue and anyone who doesn't support full equal rights for all Americans without regard to sexual orientation is on the wrong side of history.
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MS snce you were covering the campaign, a question. There was an interview with Obama where he said and I'm paraprhasing, that people saw him and they projected themselves and their values on him, or something like that.
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postxian says:
"I fear that the pragmatist's goodwill is easily exploited by the scoundrels that constitute the right wing of today's politics. I believe that a handful of Republicans in the Senate will rule our country for the next four years because of the pragmatist tendencies of our all-too-polite Democratic party."
I couldn't disagree with you more. I believe the situation is the direct opposite of how you're reading it. -
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It's an interesting argument, and I am drawn especially to the "incremental" aspect as opposed to in your face confrontation which has marked the discussion thusfar. I will mull it over, but I just don't like religious fundamentalism, never will, and will make silly juvenile faces and hand gestures at my teevee screen when his holiness Warren prays on inaugration day.
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Good post MS, thanks.
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"...radically pragmatic".
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Governing via pragmatism does seem radical these days. A marked improvement over radically dogmatic too, I'd suggest. -
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@MS - Thanks
This is one of the best things you've written in a while. You've made clearer than most commentators, the importance of having a clear logical and moral basis for whatever positions you choose to defend. While it may at times be desirable to accept 'steady improvment' as a worthwhile approach to a problem, it makes no sense to advocate "somewhat improved" as the desired end state of the action.
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History has shown us that there are indeed 'degrees' of Slavery but it has also shown us that being 'mostly' free simply doesn't cut it compared to the real thing. -
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Bahh- the last 2 sentences shouldn't be in italics...
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Andy, Yes. I blogged on this effect here, by way of a great TNR story by David Samuels.
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http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/10/08/barack_obama_as_ellisons_invis/
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Samuels wrote:"Here, Obama seems to agree with [Ralph] Ellison about the effect of the racial baggage that people bring to his public performance as a politician. The black candidate is rendered invisible to his white audience, a fact that would appear to leave him with little choice but to use that blindness in a strategic way if he wishes to lead. It is one of the outstanding ironies of Obama's story that his political rise has been fueled by a tactical grasp of the same racial logic that condemned Ellison's invisible man to living in a basement by himself. The blank screen approach that Obama has embraced works well in a moment dominated by the collapse of Wall Street and the Iraq war, issues for which all possible solutions seem unpalatable; what voters want is to feel that things will change, without too much uncomfortable detail about what will actually happen. The fact that the candidate does not make the usual appeal to the authenticity of his personal story makes the usual attacks on him seem nonsensical, regardless of whether or not they are true, a fact that the Clintons lamented during the primary season and John McCain will find equally frustrating during the general election." -
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write all this now (from vacation, no less) because I think Obama's gay rights approach is at the heart of the backlash over his inaugural invitation to Rick Warren, a popular California pastor who opposes any sanctioning of same-sex unions.
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I disagree, because I agree with Barack Obama (and if what I've read in these threads is correct, with Rick Warren) on civil unions as a reasonable compromise. Because I believe that "marriage" is just a religious word for "civil union". In my family there are half a dozen or so marriages that the Pope and my grandmother do not acknowledge, and they are all heterosexual. I don't care about the Pope's opinion or Rick Warren's.
I disagree with Joeseph Lowery on choice, and have no problem with his being there (beyond my Constitutionalist stick-in-the-mud objections to having Christian shamans cast their spells on my govenrment). Warren is a demagogue, a liar, a smarmy, divisive latter-day Elmer Gantry who dumbs down every subject he discusses, religion or politics; a cheesy self-agrandizing buffoon who poisons our civil discourse just as much as Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson ever did, even if he does it with a grin and wears a Hawaiian shirt.
He didn't oppose gay marriage by proposing a reasonable alternative or compromise; he did so by spreading a lie about the First Amendment and comparing gay people to child rapists. We're supposed to consider Warren reasonable because he supposedly cares about poor people and allegedly opposes torture. Where is his political activism in this regard?
When did he send his flock home to write letters and make phone calls and vote against Republicans for voting for the MCA?
Rick Warren is a rightwing extremist and con-man TV preacher. And he has conned Barack Obama. -
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MS -- I thought I would bring this quote from your post and in ject it into our discussion. It was quite prescient I think.
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MS wrote: "I know people who passionately support gay marriage, for instance, who still see Obama as a sort of savior, even though Obama opposes gay marriage. Along the same lines, others who are against American military intervention overseas are able to overlook Obama's hawkish views of Afghanistan and Pakistan"
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I think we'll have more of these "moments" as Obama reveals himself to us or as the situations in the world unfold. -
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MS: Here you have disected this issue in a more thoughtful and complex manner than most Americans, including myself, but you have come to the same conclusion. Without the thorough analysis, I concluded Obama's intention based on my belief that he doesn't do anything without thinking it through from every angle. Not to say he will not take risks and fail sometimes - he will. But even though I'm repulsed by what Rick Warren stands for, I know Obama's choosing of him goes far beyond the symbology it represents on the surface, and I'm going to trust him on this one because the risk isn't high.
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Just to illustrate a point I made earlier, check out this freeper thread and the comments.
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Paul D: I agree with you (2:59) but I'm not sure that it applies to the POTUS and the ability to govern effectively. Moral clarity is important, crucial even, when we discuss an issue like this. It is especially important when trying to enlighten someone or to persuade them to seeing things differently. I'm not so sure Obama feels that he must enlighten us but rather that he is charged with changing the law, incrementally if necessary, to reflect an existing trend in society. At the very least, he may feel these are two separate tasks.
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how is INVITING a bigot to your inauguration pragmatic? I understand choosing your battles, but surrendering before the first volley is just plain stupid (or an indication that you just don't give a damn). And please, this isn't about pushing gay marriage. Gay marriage WAS legal in California. People like Warren helped to strip those rights from other Americans. His invitation to the inauguration is unthinkable for liberal Americans. What nobody wants to acknowledge is that Obama lied when he said he supported gay rights, plain and simple. I don't know why you're surprised, pols do it all the time. Oh, and he is a hypocrite too, no matter how you try to justify his actions. And unless you are a gay man, I'd like for y ou and other pundits to stick a fork in it. When I get to vote to annul your marriage, then I'll listen to what you (and warren) have to say. Until then, you're just blowing smoke.
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This is what governing from the center is all about, right?
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[...] in Culture, Policy, Politics by Jon on December 19th, 2008 Mike Scherer (surprisingly) has a nice synopsis of Obama’s views on gay marriage and just why Rick Warren’s involvement in his inauguration is provoking such backlash. [...]
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lol garychapelhill
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When did Obama say he said he supported GAY MARRIAGE?
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You might want to look up his record on gay rights issues before you come off as even more ignorant than your post suggests
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I will get you started in the right direction
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I hope he's a pragmatist. I fear he's an idealist. Best would be a pragmatic idealist. Which is what he wants to be.
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