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	<title>Comments on: The GOP&#039;s Big Hispanic Problem</title>
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		<title>By: Newt Gingrich Adds An Hispanic News/Opinion Website-The Americano - Swampland - TIME.com</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/10/the-gops-big-hispanic-problem/comment-page-4/#comment-97937</link>
		<dc:creator>Newt Gingrich Adds An Hispanic News/Opinion Website-The Americano - Swampland - TIME.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a swing vote in recent presidential contests. As former Sen. Mel Martinez, R-Fla., put it late last year on Meet the Press:  The fact of the matter is that Hispanics are going to be a more and more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a swing vote in recent presidential contests. As former Sen. Mel Martinez, R-Fla., put it late last year on Meet the Press:  The fact of the matter is that Hispanics are going to be a more and more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 5 Republican Party Resolutions for 2009 &#124; Christopher Howell</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/10/the-gops-big-hispanic-problem/comment-page-4/#comment-54170</link>
		<dc:creator>5 Republican Party Resolutions for 2009 &#124; Christopher Howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ditch the anti-immigrant rhetoric. Why? Look at the Hispanic vote in four states that went to the Democrats this year: Colorado, Nevada, Florida, and New [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ditch the anti-immigrant rhetoric. Why? Look at the Hispanic vote in four states that went to the Democrats this year: Colorado, Nevada, Florida, and New [...]</p>
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		<title>By: republicans for a reason</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/10/the-gops-big-hispanic-problem/comment-page-4/#comment-19416</link>
		<dc:creator>republicans for a reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] may find itself forced to choose between its conservative base and its future as a national party. http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/10/the-gops-big-hispanic-problem/?xid=rss-topstoriesDigg - Republicans have Good Reason to like ObamaJan C. Ting is a Temple University law professor [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] may find itself forced to choose between its conservative base and its future as a national party. <a href="http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/10/the-gops-big-hispanic-problem/?xid=rss-topstoriesDigg" rel="nofollow">http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/10/the-gops-big-hispanic-problem/?xid=rss-topstoriesDigg</a> - Republicans have Good Reason to like ObamaJan C. Ting is a Temple University law professor [...]</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-11-11 &#124; Geekcentric</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/10/the-gops-big-hispanic-problem/comment-page-4/#comment-19079</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-11-11 &#124; Geekcentric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Swampland - The GOP’s Big Hispanic Problem &quot;I think that the very divisive rhetoric of the immigration debate set a very bad tone for our brand as Republicans. The fact of the matter is that Hispanics are going to be a more and more vibrant part of the electorate, and the Republican Party had better figure out how to talk to them.&quot; Hopefully with something a little smarter than &quot;Get out of our country!&quot; (tags: immigration politics republican) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Swampland - The GOP's Big Hispanic Problem &quot;I think that the very divisive rhetoric of the immigration debate set a very bad tone for our brand as Republicans. The fact of the matter is that Hispanics are going to be a more and more vibrant part of the electorate, and the Republican Party had better figure out how to talk to them.&quot; Hopefully with something a little smarter than &quot;Get out of our country!&quot; (tags: immigration politics republican) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 53_3</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/10/the-gops-big-hispanic-problem/comment-page-4/#comment-18913</link>
		<dc:creator>53_3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cfukara:
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When the GOP uses the word &#039;pander&#039; in realation to the Black community, it is &lt;i&gt; always &lt;/i&gt; negative.
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Also,
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pander
–noun Also, pan⋅der⋅er. 
1. a person who furnishes clients for a prostitute or supplies persons for illicit sexual intercourse; procurer; pimp. 
2. a person who caters to or profits from the weaknesses or vices of others. 
3. a go-between in amorous intrigues. 
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–verb (used without object) 
4. to act as a pander; cater basely: to pander to the vile tastes of vulgar persons.  
–verb (used with object) 
5. to act as a pander for. 
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This is from Dictionary.com
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I think I can comforatbly rest my case here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cfukara:<br />
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When the GOP uses the word 'pander' in realation to the Black community, it is <i> always </i> negative.<br />
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Also,<br />
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pander<br />
–noun Also, pan⋅der⋅er.<br />
1. a person who furnishes clients for a prostitute or supplies persons for illicit sexual intercourse; procurer; pimp.<br />
2. a person who caters to or profits from the weaknesses or vices of others.<br />
3. a go-between in amorous intrigues.<br />
.<br />
–verb (used without object)<br />
4. to act as a pander; cater basely: to pander to the vile tastes of vulgar persons.<br />
–verb (used with object)<br />
5. to act as a pander for.<br />
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This is from Dictionary.com<br />
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I think I can comforatbly rest my case here.</p>
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		<title>By: kth</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/10/the-gops-big-hispanic-problem/comment-page-4/#comment-18888</link>
		<dc:creator>kth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thing is, the immigration deal Republicans could have gotten in 2005 is better than the deal they will get in 2009 or whenever. The bill that comes out of the Dem-dominated committees will be (probably by design) impossible for most Republicans to vote for. So expect this problem to get worse for Republicans, especially in swingy border states/districts, before it gets better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thing is, the immigration deal Republicans could have gotten in 2005 is better than the deal they will get in 2009 or whenever. The bill that comes out of the Dem-dominated committees will be (probably by design) impossible for most Republicans to vote for. So expect this problem to get worse for Republicans, especially in swingy border states/districts, before it gets better.</p>
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		<title>By: pandering</title>
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		<dc:creator>pandering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] may find itself forced to choose between its conservative base and its future as a national party. http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/10/the-gops-big-hispanic-problem/?xid=rss-topstoriesLou Dobbs is a Pandering Moron! Global Investment WatchWhy am I attacking this lovable guy, you ask? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] may find itself forced to choose between its conservative base and its future as a national party. <a href="http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/10/the-gops-big-hispanic-problem/?xid=rss-topstoriesLou" rel="nofollow">http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/10/the-gops-big-hispanic-problem/?xid=rss-topstoriesLou</a> Dobbs is a Pandering Moron! Global Investment WatchWhy am I attacking this lovable guy, you ask? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cfukara</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/10/the-gops-big-hispanic-problem/comment-page-4/#comment-18867</link>
		<dc:creator>cfukara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>53_3 Says:
&lt;i&gt;&quot; ..that the word &#039;pandering&#039; is a negative way of saying &#039;addressing the issues of&#039;.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
&quot;negative&quot; is in the eyes of the beholder. 

Like, Hitler would say that &quot;holocaust&quot; is a negative way of looking at what he was up to. And our forefathers would hesitate to use the terms &quot;holocaust&quot; or &quot;slave trade&quot; with regard to &quot;cheap or free labour inputs&quot;, &quot;pure capitalism&quot;, or &quot;manifest destiny&quot;.
Hey, why not say  &quot;Southern Strategy&quot; instead of &quot;racist GOP&quot;?
We hear about &#039;targeted innocent women and kids&#039; being referred to as &quot;suspected terrorists&quot; or &quot;suspected Islamists&quot;. 
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And the &#039;dead innocent people&#039; as &quot;collateral damage&quot;.
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In the 60s, &quot;mass slaughter of villagers&quot; was considered a negative way of saying &quot;sanitizing a village&quot; in Vietnam.  It couldn&#039;t have been all that bad: The necks of the culprits involved were never at risk like those of Hitler and his henchmen and guards. And neither were the necks at risk for those involved in the atrocities at Abu Ghraib, Baquba, Guantanamo, Sabra and Shatila...

&quot;addressing the issues of&quot;?
Unlike MOST Americans, the prime issue that pre-occupy the Jewish &#039;faith&#039;/demographic  - which is less than 2% of our population - is that which affects the foreign state of Israel. Why should we, the bitter Americans, predicate the election of the president of our sovereign USA on the degree to which the candidate can pander and grovel to the interests and whims of a foreign sovereign?
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Have you ever listened to Henry Kissinger address a Jewish group?
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The African-American population accounts for about 13%. The Latino-Americans  population is over 15%.  Yet our presidential candidates do not go out of their way to pander to the interests of African or South American countries.
[In fact if African-Americans talk about fostering a closer bond with Africa or lobby for increased grants, closer co-operation and freer movement of people between Africa and the USA they are more likely to be accused of being un-American or lacking in patriotism or even told to renounce their citizenship and emigrate to those foreign countries - as if THAT is a punishment.  Can we apply similar admonition to the Jewish demographic and its agitation on behalf of Israel?]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>53_3 Says:<br />
<i>" ..that the word 'pandering' is a negative way of saying 'addressing the issues of'."</i><br />
"negative" is in the eyes of the beholder. </p>
<p>Like, Hitler would say that "holocaust" is a negative way of looking at what he was up to. And our forefathers would hesitate to use the terms "holocaust" or "slave trade" with regard to "cheap or free labour inputs", "pure capitalism", or "manifest destiny".<br />
Hey, why not say  "Southern Strategy" instead of "racist GOP"?<br />
We hear about 'targeted innocent women and kids' being referred to as "suspected terrorists" or "suspected Islamists".<br />
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And the 'dead innocent people' as "collateral damage".<br />
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In the 60s, "mass slaughter of villagers" was considered a negative way of saying "sanitizing a village" in Vietnam.  It couldn't have been all that bad: The necks of the culprits involved were never at risk like those of Hitler and his henchmen and guards. And neither were the necks at risk for those involved in the atrocities at Abu Ghraib, Baquba, Guantanamo, Sabra and Shatila...</p>
<p>"addressing the issues of"?<br />
Unlike MOST Americans, the prime issue that pre-occupy the Jewish 'faith'/demographic  - which is less than 2% of our population - is that which affects the foreign state of Israel. Why should we, the bitter Americans, predicate the election of the president of our sovereign USA on the degree to which the candidate can pander and grovel to the interests and whims of a foreign sovereign?<br />
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Have you ever listened to Henry Kissinger address a Jewish group?<br />
.<br />
The African-American population accounts for about 13%. The Latino-Americans  population is over 15%.  Yet our presidential candidates do not go out of their way to pander to the interests of African or South American countries.<br />
[In fact if African-Americans talk about fostering a closer bond with Africa or lobby for increased grants, closer co-operation and freer movement of people between Africa and the USA they are more likely to be accused of being un-American or lacking in patriotism or even told to renounce their citizenship and emigrate to those foreign countries - as if THAT is a punishment.  Can we apply similar admonition to the Jewish demographic and its agitation on behalf of Israel?]</p>
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		<title>By: oizydoizy</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/10/the-gops-big-hispanic-problem/comment-page-4/#comment-18850</link>
		<dc:creator>oizydoizy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought we saw the Republican&#039;s A-game with Tito the Builder.  Maybe they&#039;ll up the ante next time by making him Palin&#039;s running mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought we saw the Republican's A-game with Tito the Builder.  Maybe they'll up the ante next time by making him Palin's running mate.</p>
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		<title>By: yoshiattack</title>
		<link>http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/10/the-gops-big-hispanic-problem/comment-page-3/#comment-18765</link>
		<dc:creator>yoshiattack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Slowhand Ted, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a good idea to try determine which party is more friendly to minorities by looking at convention attendees (sorry if that isn&#039;t what you meant).  If the GOP had carefully arranged a diverse group of ethnicities before the cameras, I&#039;m sure many would think that was staged.  

I did end up seeing black Republicans at the convention - via Daily Show coverage.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Slowhand Ted, I don't think it's a good idea to try determine which party is more friendly to minorities by looking at convention attendees (sorry if that isn't what you meant).  If the GOP had carefully arranged a diverse group of ethnicities before the cameras, I'm sure many would think that was staged.  </p>
<p>I did end up seeing black Republicans at the convention - via Daily Show coverage.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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