Prop 8

Well if nothing else perhaps this will put an end to this absurd assumption that African American support can be taken for granted by those on the left.

Well perhaps this sill put an end to the absurd @ssunption that African American support can be taken for granted by those on the left.

Roberta McCain was right -- Mormons are trouble!

Yawn. Ana Marie Cox, pimping for the unwatched freakshow hostessed by Kief Olbermoronn, announces that Olbermoronn will have an "all-new" Special Education Comment on Prop 8. Tonight, Olbermoronn will denounce California for not recognizing, like its lawless, loony, so-called "Supreme Court", that the United States and California constitutions include the "funamental constitutional right" to "marry" as many dogs, oak trees, paramecia and door knobs as any Democrat wants to "marry".

There you again textee -- your inability to learn from defeat spell disaster for your side of the aisle if it becomes the SOP of the GOP. Your position would be a bit more debatable if you didn't present it by first personally castigating your opposition. Trust me most stopped listening at "yawn."

In a time when a huge barrier of inequality was knocked down in the election of President Barack Hussein Obama (how you like them apples, textie?), it is heavily ironic that the African American voters of California would vote in overwhelming numbers to strip one last group of their civil rights. It is very sad and unfortunate that homosexuals are the last group in America who can be openly discriminated against and have their rights retracted and not expanded.
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For shame.

boooo moderator-bot. down with moderator-bot...
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In a time when a huge barrier of inequality was knocked down in the election of President Barack Hussein Obama (how you like them apples, textie?), it is heavily ironic that the African American voters of California would vote in overwhelming numbers to strip one last group of their civil rights. It is very sad and unfortunate that homo$exuals are the last group in America who can be openly discriminated against and have their rights retracted and not expanded.
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For shame.

one more try, this is starting to get extremely aggravating:
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In a time when a huge barrier of inequality was knocked down in the election of President Barack Hussein Obama (how you like them apples, textie?), it is heavily ironic that the African American voters of California would vote in overwhelming numbers to strip one last group of their civil rights. It is very sad and unfortunate that gays are the last group in America who can be openly discriminated against and have their rights retracted and not expanded.
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For shame.

your moderator is a total jerk. this site is worse in every way than it was before the crash a few weeks ago. pretty pathetic Time.

Textee is back! Tell us how you have been handling this past week.

I saw someone earlier today (on CNN, I think) compare Prop 8 to a mid-twentith century law banning interracial marriage, which the US supreme court struck down as unconstitutional. It gave me pause, because that's the first time I've seen anything similar (a stance that some marriages were "not right" or "immoral") being reversed.
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In fact, the United States Supreme Court in Loving v. Virginia struck down all state laws banning interracial marriage, declaring marriage "one of the ‘basic civil rights of man.'"
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If one looks at the state of gay marriage now, and compares it to the state of interracial marriage then (I read an awful piece on a white man who married an american-born girl of chinese descent in California, moved to Missouri, and was told that all marriages between a white person and a Mongolian were null and void, regardless of where the Mongol was born--seriously, a Mongol!) it's difficult to see how Prop 8 is constitutional.

I can't find a single word in my post that has @ss in it, and it's still in moderation. WTF?

My eighty five year old mother talked about gay marriage the other day - she uses plain old common sense when talking about the Constitution. .........

http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/11/02/old-women-talk-politics/

usersherbrain, I couldn't imagine why my post in the beginning of this new world was held until I realized I said that this was testing our puzzle solving sk!lls.

gay might be a bad word

I just confirmed that the word g@y is picked up by the moderator

This is easily the most depressing result of the election. Being biracial, marriage equality is a huge issue for me. It's unfortunate that so many African-Americans were unable to see the parallels with racist marriage laws.
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usesherbrain, well said. Prop 8 is obviously unconstitutional.

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Mongolian? Could it be that?

Nope.
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Very distracting.
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Also, found myself inserting manual paragraph breaks on a haloscan site recently.
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But we GOT RIGHT JUSTIFICATION!!
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"It isn't as though I haven't met a lot of people.
Goodness knows it isn't that. It isn't that, goodness knows."

I don't really see how prop 8 is unconstitutional. Wouldn't the same be true of minimum age laws or laws against polygamy?
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I am surprised people are surprised to find homophobia in the black communities around the country. Steve Gilliard (who I still miss) wrote about it frequently. The "down low" is pretty widely written about, as well.

Mongo only pawn...in game of life.

What's truly unfortunate is that because religion has become so entangled with our justice system, I don't think the current system can come to a similar conclusion WRT Prop 8. They'll argue that the Virginia v. Loving decision specifies that marriage is fundamental to the survival of our species, so it was obviously not talking about g@y partners.
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I'm crossing my fingers for the Californian proceedings, though... That's step one in the long quest for equality.

hahahahaha
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Check out Carney on the reaction shot:
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http://www.eschatonblog.com/2008_11_09_archive.html#4122840037396994950

kbang

I will never forgive Alex Karras for Webster.