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McCain Camp: Things Are Getting Tight

On a brief jump flight from Philadelphia to Scranton, McCain adviser Charlie Black and Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback came back to talk up the campaign's conviction that the glass if half full. "Four years ago at this point, George W. Bush was down five points in Iowa," Brownback said. "Today John McCain is down one point in Iowa."

He was citing an unreleased internal McCain campaign poll of the state, which was completed last Thursday, said Black. (The campaign stopped doing its own polling after Thursday, he added, because television time through the election all had to be purchased by Friday.) However, public polls in Iowa suggest that McCain is still in a big hole. Last week, the Des Moines Register poll, which has a good record of prediction in that state, put McCain's deficit at 17 points, with Barack Obama garnering 54 percent of the support.

"McCain is in a good position to win every red state," Black said. "Plus he is probably going to win Pennsylvania and Iowa." Polls have narrowed sharply in Pennsylvania in recent weeks, though Obama still has a sizable lead of 7 points in the Real Clear Politics average. Black said he had seen a poll recently that showed McCain tied in the Philadelphia suburbs, a crucial swing region of the state.

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  • 26

    maybe i'm just naive about the whole relationship between reporters and the people they cover, but shouldn't there be some sort of consequence when you just tell bald-faced lies to reporters?

    one point down in Iowa? who'd they poll, the Palin family? this is so clearly bullsh*t that i can't fathom how you reporters can stand being around people who lie to your face so baldly. it would drive me nuts.

  • 27

    McCain will definitely not win Iowa but he might win Pennsylvania, and that's a big might because Obama has a very impressive ground game in that state. He has over a 100 campaign offices and over 60,000 volunteers making phone calls knocking on doors and will be getting out the vote on election day. McCain doesn't even have half as many as Obama does. They have to say they will because otherwise their people might not leave their house to vote that day.

  • 28

    Do you believe Charlie Black MS?

    Seriously. It's a legit question.

  • 29

    The reason you don't see Obama in Pennsylvania much is because of his very impressive ground game he has in that state. He is confident in his over 60,000 volunteers to get out the vote that day. Biden will be in Philadelphia tomorrow and I won't be surprised if Obama makes the trip their on election day to help get out the vote. McCain won't win Iowa but his best shot at winning the election is in Pennsylvania because both Kerry and Gore won that state by a few ten thousand votes. I predict an Obama win though.

  • 30

    Kathy012, I live in PA and am very anxious. The McCain advertising on tv and the mailers have been relentless.
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    However, I have volunteered at an Obama office and see the ground game. I get nearly hourly e-mail messages from the campaign and from MoveOn. There are a lot of Repubs here, but with the registration edge Obama will surely maintain his lead.

  • 31

    I also think it would be smart if Obama stopped again on his way back to Chicago. But, if his campaign thought PA was at all in danger, I have no doubt he would have been here already.

  • 32

    ""Four years ago at this point, George W. Bush was down five points in Iowa," Brownback said. "Today John McCain is down one point in Iowa.""

    Mr. Brownback is either delusional or hasn't done his homework.

    Four years ago at this point, GWB was marginally ahead in the polls in Iowa. The RCP average showed him up by 0.3%. He ended up winning by 0.67%.

  • 33

    ivb,
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    Biden is going to PA on Monday so I hear and I think he is the better advocate for the places in PA where Obama is weak

  • 34

    i talked in lenght to a conservative friend in pa. this morning who stated the eastern corridor of pa. is obamer country and the margin of victory there will determine if he wins pa.if he comes out of philly will a 600,000 vote lead its all over except the twist and shout.

  • 35

    AMC tweets on the same briefing:

    C Black gaggled on the charter, sez "internals" have McCaun w/in 1 pt in IA. Sure, if by "internal" you mean pulled out of someone's a$$...

  • 36

    This map is interesting from electoral-vote. Shows the map on this day in 2004 (not sure if that means the Sunday before the election, but I @ssume it does.) The predictor was Kerry 262, Bush 261, with New Jersey tied.

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2004/Pres/Maps/Nov02.html

  • 37

    MS, God forbid you should actually apply a little critical thinking to Charlie Black's talking points instead of just regurgitating them.

  • 38

    If Obama thought there was something to worry about in Pennsylvania, Obama would be there. They are running a very smart campaign, even critics agree. Their ground game is more than double the ground game of McCain's.

  • 39

    Charlie Black? Wasn't this the same Charlie Black who predicted an easy win for George H.W. Bush in 1992?

    Iowa? Pennsylvania? Are you kidding? McCain "in position to easily win every red state"?!?!?!

    Hey Charlie. Check this out:
    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20081101/NEWS09/81101014

    And here's another:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/fl/florida_mccain_vs_obama-418.html

    And yet another:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/pa/pennsylvania_mccain_vs_obama-244.html

    Here's the question, Charlie: Do you need drugs or do you need to get off of drugs?

    I normally have a high regard for Michael Scherer. I can't believe he'd report this drivel as if it were to be taken seriously. I also can't believe he chose this laughable headline.

  • 40

    Charlie Black has to say that because otherwise supporters might not show up to vote.

  • 41

    Whether Obama is in Virginia or FL tomorrow, one more stop in PA on the way home can't hurt.

  • 42

    I live in NYC but my husband and I just got back from calling voters in Penn. There were at least a 100 people making calls there. I called over 150 people and my husband called over 100. We were focusing on Western PA. I don't no much about the area but everyone I called in State College was voting for Obama. Ivb do you know anything abput this area?

  • 43

    This is a hallucination based on wishful talking points. The real (published) polls have Obama up by 6-10 points in both PA and IA. What we are looking at is the talking points to support the only conceivably plausible McCain success scenario to keep the troops motivated, even if the word "plausible" is a stretch.

    What McCain seeks which the Democrats have (which they did not have in 2000 or 2004) is passion in his troops. His problem is that the more he excites his base, the more he turns off the center. Witness Palin. The center is not impressed by inflamatory comments about socialism, unAmericanism, etc. The real issue is that McCain has abandoned that which the center liked about him- bipartisan reasonablility and proven himself to be impetuous, erratic and "unpresidential." He has resorted to tactics which he used to decry and lost the likes of me while Obama has clearly been the cooler, calmer, smarter and more Presidential.

    Obama will win in a blowout thanks to turnout and appeal to the center. I personally know dozens of Republicans voting for him. Thank goodness that we will have a president that will govern from the center and who has not relied on inflamatory allegations. All politicians count among their supporters some whackos. Obama has some as does McCain. Most Americans have figured that out enough to blow off the unrelentingly negative McCain attacks.

    http://www.jrcconsulting.com

  • 44

    Looking at the RCP average for PA from which Michael Scherer references Barack Obama's 7% lead, the breakout is 51% Barack Obama, 44% John McCain, 5% undecided.
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    Barack Obama is already over 50% in Pennsylvania. He is doing better than John Kerry did in 2004.
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    Despite what the voices in Charlie Black's head tell him, John McCain is not going to win PA. (The campaign is there because it happens to be the shortest long shot he has.)

  • 45

    Three links? I was told only two under this new regime.

  • 46

    This is a hallucination based on wishful talking points. The real (published) polls have Obama up by 6-10 points in both PA and IA. What we are looking at is the talking points to support the only conceivably plausible McCain success scenario to keep the troops motivated, even if the word "plausible" is a stretch.

    What McCain seeks which the Democrats have (which they did not have in 2000 or 2004) is passion in his troops. His problem is that the more he excites his base, the more he turns off the center. Witness Palin. The center is not impressed by inflamatory comments about socialism, unAmericanism, etc. The real issue is that McCain has abandoned that which the center liked about him- bipartisan reasonablility and proven himself to be impetuous, erratic and "unpresidential." He has resorted to tactics which he used to decry and lost the likes of me while Obama has clearly been the cooler, calmer, smarter and more Presidential.

    Obama will win in a blowout thanks to turnout and appeal to the center. I personally know dozens of Republicans voting for him. Thank goodness that we will have a president that will govern from the center and who has not relied on inflamatory allegations. All politicians count among their supporters some whackos. Obama has some as does McCain. Most Americans have figured that out enough to blow off the unrelentingly negative McCain attacks.

  • 47

    MS pretty clearly says that this is malarkey, just by bringing up the Register poll.

  • 48

    dfh State College is the home of Penn State University and so the immediate area is more liberal than the rest of central PA. There have been large voter registration drives at the University, so if they come out to vote that will help the overall state total. Obama will win big in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, but the Phila suburbs are the key.
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    Biden is good for McCain in the Northeast part of the state and ok in Philadelphia. I found it utterly bizarre that Bob Casey couldn't bring his own home county in for Obama in the primary, but I don't think that will be as much of a problem now.
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    Ed Rendell has been really working for Obama as has Michael Nutter, Phila mayor. Logically, there should not be a problem with PA, I'm just a worrier.

  • 49

    You "rats" are just getting nervous as election day gets closer. Finally a few (very few) of the press/media are reporting the truths about Obama and it is pretty SCARY to say the least. McCain is a true American, loves his country and FINALLY tired of being a true gentleman when getting slammed from all sides falsely. It's high time he fought back! If Obama is elected GOD HELP US ALL!!!! I watched the Berlin Wall come down, I'll be Obama will put one up here, that's if he still has any stones left after throwing them all at McCain. McCain for President! A TRUE, EXPERIENCED, ITTELIGENT, AMERICAN who is PROUD to wear the American Flag on his lapel and won't do away with our National Anthem!!!!!

  • 50

    Hey MS, as long as you're traveling with the McCain campaign, how about being a journalist and asking about this (from TPM):

    When he was just the topic du jour because of his question to Barack Obama back in the neighborhood in Ohio, that was one thing. But "Joe the Plumber" is now actively campaigning with and for John McCain, appearing on stage with him at multiple events, etc. He has become a part of McCain's campaign, like any other surrogate.

    So here "Joe" is on TV just about an hour ago saying that people shouldn't vote for Obama because he doubts Obama's "loyalty to America".

    I guess saying Obama reminded him of Sammy Davis, Jr. wasn't bad enough. But isn't it time someone ask McCain whether he's really willing to associate with this extremist?

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