Re: Ooof

Hurry back, Amy Poehler – you and Seth need to do another installment of "Really?"

Maybe Lizzy Dole can take Sarah under wing and teach her what's appropriate to say... opps I forgot she's getting sued for slander.

Hey KT,

If you're listening and not at home making caramel apples, Steve Benen's post on this includes this comment:

I realize far-right activists think Palin is a great leader and the future of the Republican Party. I just can't figure out why.

Is he right about this? Do far-right activists think Palin is the future of the party? It doesn't seem that plausible to me.

Dumb as a stump.

@jay - I always go back to this moment to remind myself of just how in love with Palin is the religious right. The moment she was picked, Dobson hopped on board. The instant. It's a very strong bond.

...but perhaps the point is that social conservatives are now THE base of the party, and not longer one (albeit most noise-making) component of the base. There was, previously, a separate base composed of those that worshipped the dollar as the one true god and saw the government's role being make the world safe for business. That, perhaps now lost base, would not have much use for Ms. Palin...

pourme,

I still contend that McCain is going to bury her after the election if they lose. She won't know what hit her

To jayackroyd @5:33 p.m.:
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I live in probably THE most conservative part of Texas (East Texas, that northeast chunk that abuts OK, AR and LA), fervently fundamentalist/evangelical, and I can tell you that here, Caribou Barbie is like royalty. It's disturbing. She is considered smart (I may throw up), is touted as "real" and "one of us," and if McCain dropped out of the race tomorrow, people here wouldn't even miss him. They're voting for Sarah now, and they are waiting for her to lead them to the Promised Land.

@sgt - You've said that several times, and I have no doubt he wants to and will act on that wish, but ... he will be a man without a constituency. What leverage does he have with Dobson and the religious right? I'm not trying to be argumentative, but the answer is none. They despised him the day before the Palin pick and will revert to form the day after the election. The Weekly Standard neocon crowd? They truly hated him without Palin and it's back to the same after. So, sure McCain will say bad things, but she has the support of those constituencies and he has the support of none.

The Republican's and their enablers in the MSM are already selling the meme that Palin was unfairly attacked by the libral media and that is why her poll numbers tanked. Her stupididty had nothing to do with it.

Sue: Poor you living amongst that school of thought. It must be that eliminating one's right to choose is the no.1 issue for them and they believe Palin will stop at nothing to git-r-done.

Talk about taking away your first amendment rights over second amendment rights. You have GOT to read this.
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http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=2315

Thanks KT, sue, pour. There are things that are just incomprehensible from here, and this is one of them.
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sg, I don't see any chance of McCain having a whiff of power. It's just him, Holy Joe and Huckleberry. And I don't see how Graham can stand by him, either. Did you see the Napalitano-head to head numbers in a 2010 senate race? I doubt he runs.
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What he may try to do in his last two years is find a couple of issues to support Obama on, like immigration. But for all his talk of compromise, I don't see any issues where there is a useful middle ground right now.
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If the campaign hadn't been heinous, even evil, you'd be tempted to feel sorry for him. Bush drove the country over a cliff, took the party with him, and McCain may end up getting the blame for the latter.
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sue--East Texas? The home of Michelle Shocked, who sang about East Texas AND Anchorage.

I still contend that McCain is going to bury her after the election if they lose
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sg I was just having an end of the week beverage with my sister and passed your theory along. She asked if you had examples and I mumbled something about how you seem pretty on top of things.
Do you have history to support that or is it your hunch?

What a dingbat! The 1st Amendment protects the press's freedom to question and criticize the government.

Go figure - a right wingnut doesn't know the 1st and most important guarantee of the Bill of Rights!!

She seems to think that it's meant to guarantee her airtime and press coverage (which, by the way, to some degree is guaranteed under the equal time rules of campaign laws, but that sure the heck is not the 1st Amendment!)

"I still contend that McCain is going to bury her after the election if they lose"

I have been curious sg-what do you base that on?

Sarah is above the constitution...after all she wants to be VP.

Thanks KT, sue, pour. There are things that are just incomprehensible from here, and this is one of them.

I posted that earlier, on top of a longer post in limbo.

Funny. Let's open the Republican Hope Chest and see what's in it. One thing. One tiny little thing: Murtha. It's funny because it's true.

Paul,
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I think its going to be an eat or be eaten situation if they lose. Sarah Palin is going to try to throw McCain under the bus because he didnt go after Obama for Rev Wright and other reasons and she is going to try to serve him up to the base on a platter. I think, no I am positive that McCain knows this and isn't going to go quietly into that good night. He has been around too long to let it happen and the only way to stop it will be to bury her instead. I firmly believe these "leaks" about her being a rogue and a "whack job" came from McCain and if you notice it was always a response to something she did that potentially hurt him. Bringing up the 150k worth of clothes after she was told not to. Having one of her allies claim it was all McCain's fault for flubbing her roll out. Its going to be a knock down drag out but I think McCain will end up with the other hand before he retires back to the ranch

As I also noted in the comment in limbo, sg,I don't see a mechanism for McCain to do that. He is going to be disgraced.
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A Republican strategist commenting on the Democrats (can't remember who now) expressed amused disbelief that Bob Shrum kept getting to run campaigns. He said with Republicans it's one strike and you're out. I doubt that McCain will even run in 2010; have you seen the numbers head to head with Napolitano?
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The real question is whether the comment Dirks made over at my blog is right--that the corporate/beltway republicans will take the party back from these know-nothings.
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jay,
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Don't forget that I never said McCain would go back to being a senator in good standing. Maybe you misunderstand me. When I talk about her trying to bury him I am not talking about him being triumphant in running for Senate in two years and continuing on that way. I am talking about permanently tarnishing his record and making him an outcast in the Republican party. She is going to try to use him like she has used others like a stepping stone to vault herself into the "leader" of the GOP. And my point is you won't remember her name in 2 years because he is going to see to it that she doesn't benefit from st@bbing him in the back.

I think "social conservatives" (more accurately, "reactionaries") have forgotten that they need to appear at least borderline rational, so they can get some of the non-crazy vote.

@sgwhite - An acquaintance of mine is the chair of the local Republican party. He tells me that the day after the election every single local Republican party, club, and candidate will have Sarah Palin as #1 on their speaker list because of the money she will bring in and that she could spend two years doing nothing but that. That's power.