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Well, we've seen this sort of thing the entire campaign,occasionally from the Obama camp, relentlessly from McCain. Today's edition of scrofulous mudslinging--aided and abetted by a banner headline from the Drudge Scourge--involves a wildly inaccurate reading of remarks that Barack Obama made in a 2001 radio interview. It turns out that he wasn't criticizing the Supreme Court for its failure to "redistribute" wealth. He was saying the exact opposite: that the Supreme Court wasn't the way to go. He was saying that political power was the only real way to make decisions about the distribution of taxation. Obama's sentiment is, of course, a wildly radical notion--or, at least it was, before the American Revolution.

To state the obvious, once again: We have had a redistribution of wealth, upward, during the Reagan era. Taxes on work, a.k.a. payroll taxes, have increased. Taxes on wealth, the upper margins of the income tax plus capital gains plus estate taxes, have decreased. To call Obama a socialist because he wants to redress this imbalance is as accurate as calling McCain an oligarch because he doesn't.

Now that McCain's been called out on this, you figure he'll stop using it, right? Yeah, sure. After all, this is mild compared to the trash going out in those robo-calls. You wonder how McCain returns to the land of the living after this campaign is over--after all, his voice and vote, and his pre-campaign moderation, would be valuable on issues like immigration and global warming. There must be some sort of political detox, right?

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  • 1

    He will apologize for burning a cross in front of the South Carolina flag and all will be forgiven again.

  • 2

    Yeah, but John McCain has been exposed as a natural blond. .............

    http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/27/mccain-has-found-his-voice-but-it-is-too-late/

  • 3

    He will continue to behave as if he inhabits an alternative universe and when you call him on it he will answer in the famous words of Gary coleman "Whatcha talking about Willis??

  • 4

    I'm still waiting for someone who's less than 28 years old even explain what "redistribution" means and why its supposed to be bad.
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    Part of McCain's problem is that the bogeymen he invokes are only bogeymen to those of us who are old enough to have it explained in school why Capitalism was so superior to Communism and why the USA was on the side of angels. Now that the main socialist menace is that the Chinese are embracing Capitalism without that pesky decent standard of living expectation and labor laws that hamper US companies, US companies respond by laying off Americans and hiring Chinese and then scratch their heads wondering where all their customers got off to.

    Obama suddenly suggests that perhaps Americans would like some jobs and a little pocket change in order to be able to buy products and McCain screams SOCIALIST!

    I don't get it.

  • 5

    McCain will be a Man Without A Country - re-forsaken by the evangelicals, who only got on board because of Palin, re-despised by ideological conservatives, who only stopped hating him with a passion long enough to attempt a win, re-ignored by the Rockefeller Republicans who can settle fully on Romney now, and kicked to the curb the center whose disgust he earned by running a truly despicable campaign. I feel sorry for Cindy. Wouldn't want to be her.

  • 6

    Did you guys catch Bill Burton calling FoxNews out? Do you think they will ask him back after this?

  • 7

    Sitting in a local bar/cafe tonight listening to a couple of drunks lambasting Obama and everything Democratic, and then an e-mail from my fanatically rigiht-wing brother saying the ONLY issue on the table is abortion -- it occurred to me McCain has no choice but to feed these people. I'm not sure anybody else is listening.

  • 8

    Come on, Joe, surely Mac is a good god-fearing Christian. We have to take the maverick at his word about his deep faith in Jesus. So, I'm not sure about detox but in death he can be surely be redeemed. Pre-death, sorry, but forgiveness ain't possible. For you guys in the narrative business, those who can look past his demogogy (considering it mere political contamination, that he's really innocent and has just surrounded himself with scum) and not consider him filth b/c he might see the light on one or two issues in the future, well, please feel free. That's your prerogative. But it's also why we still don't trust you. If you give a free forgiveness pass to the likes of Mac, than all your previous columns/posts condemning his tactics are for moot.

    Meanwhile, he can go back to Sedona et al with his plastic trophy wife and cobble together the necessary self-respect to look himself in the mirror in the morning. Who'd have thought he'd make Gore and Kerry look like winners in defeat, compared to pathetic campaign he's run and the coming GOP armageddon.

    "I am still honorable" he'll be whispering, hungover and twitching like the f-tool he is. I'll weep at his passing like I weeped for Helms.

  • 9

    Paul D. you are on top of it. Unfortunately, the average Joe (Plumber, or whatever) hasn't a clue. Would limiting the massive CEO compensation packages and distributing it to the stockholders be socialist?

    My point is that the Fascist Party followers don't really get it. Obama looks to win, and I am holding my breath until it really happens, because half of this country is ignorant and fascist.

  • 10

    Cedar, I have been there.

  • 11

    As long as John McCain can find mouthpieces gullible enough to catapult the propaganda, why should he stop?
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    Also, I think it is more prudent to build an issue by issue super majority in the Senate. Joe Lieberman has been willing to vote for environmental packages without large giveaways to the nuclear power lobby. Lindsey Graham was a big supporter of the immigration bill. Even some of the most conservative Senators have an issue or two on which they find themselves in agreement with the Democratic Party. No man is an island.

  • 12

    What surprises anyone about what is happening? It was all predictable. Republicans have no honor, they do not deal in truth. The end justifies the means. Lies, racism, theft of voting rights, division of the country are all on the table very day of the year.

    What I would love to hear Obama say in the next week is... The election officials who violated Federal law in regards to purging of voter lists will be prosecuted.

    At his inauguration I would love to hear him say equal access to the public airways will be enforced. Those television and radio outlets who have manipulated the truth for personal gain and power will have their licenses stripped. Mr. Murdock you are on notice.

  • 13

    I'm looking forward to McCain administration. How could he govern if he wins?

  • 14

    I'm not sure how McCain rehabilitates his brand name or integrity after this campaign is over. He went all in with the slime attacks and I suspect he will be forever branded. What a pitiful denouement to a once honorable public servant!

  • 15

    [...] my earlier round up of comments on this story, Joe Klein has also weighed in: Well, we’ve seen this sort of thing the entire campaign,occasionally [...]

  • 16

    McCain has no future. This is it Joe. If he does not make it this time there is nothing to save. People will forgive after he is dead. It happens all the time.
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    This is no slam on you, but after this, it's utterly, completely and finally over.

  • 17

    you might also point out that John McCain opposed Bush tax cuts in 2000 for reasons very much like Obama's rationale today. Just one of those many flip-flops that McCain can't remember, nor any reporter who addresses him.

    YOUNG WOMAN: Are we getting closer and closer to, like, socialism and stuff?. . .
    MCCAIN: Here's what I really believe: That when you reach a certain level of comfort, there's nothing wrong with paying somewhat more.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2JPbQOHEkY

    http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2008/11/03/081103taco_talk_hertzberg?printable=true

    (Is this wordpress nonsense permanet?)

  • 18

    [...] Update II: With all the responses to these charges, I’ve added a second post on the topic containing debunking from The Fact Checker and from Joe Klein. [...]

  • 19

    Joe the mistake you make is that while you have called McCain on the sleaze in his campaign, you still believe that it is the result of being coerced by his desire to be president. So you ask what he will do to repair the damage. Unfortunately, person of great character is not coerced into sleaze by his naked ambitions. The propensity to rise above self-interest is kind of the definition of character --so what would he actually be repairing?

  • 20

    A good friend of mine was chatting online with me last night and told me he had lost big with the recent economic meltdown. He proceeded to tell me he had lost 1 million dollars in the stock market. He's got less than 2 million dollars left. The sky is falling. His wife is investing in gold, he tells me. And then he scoffs at Obama's "redistribution of wealth" plan.
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    Before the scoffing, I felt bad for him. I mean, a million bucks is a ton of money. Then again, so is 1.5+ million, which is what my friend has left. I have no idea what that much money would look like. We go a few rounds over the definition of "redistribution." I tell him we've been doing it for at least 8 years, but we've been redistributing the wealth upwards. He counters by saying Bush isn't to blame for the recent Wall Street convulsions--it was Clinton's fault because he signed off on deregulation 9 years ago. Before I can marshal a thoughtful response--that Clinton was fighting a Republican congress at the time, for instance--I shoot back the following: "My sister-in-law has $500 left." It's true--my sister-in-law in Florida has five hundred bucks left in her retirement fund. Period.
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    It was a cheap shot, I admit. And my friend said that was truly terrible for my sister-in-law and we stopped talking about politics.
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    When did we get so bent around the idea that paying taxes is evil? When did we forget that there are more important things in the world than protecting our money? Sure, we need money. We need it. Love it. But this whole "Obama's a socialist!" crap, the "Watch your wallet!" line I hear constantly from my father...when did it stop being about lifting people up? I nearly wept when I listened to Colin Powell's endorsement of Obama, not because he endorsed the man but because of what Powell said about being American and what America should be.
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    But then, what the heck do I know. I just live in the red state of Georgia.
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    Though it's starting to turn pinkish.

  • 21

    Shakespear, what a great post. Of course, with me, you preach to the choir. I especially agree with the tax thing. The fascist party pitches no tax. Yes? Where does the money for the wars they wage come from? Their prisons? Can we have roads and education? The no tax deal is the most inane thing they preach, after all of the hate they pander to.

  • 22

    My point at 12. is that there is no reason for McCain not to go for broke and sell his soul. He has nothing left and he knows it.

  • 23

    I think my brother skipped over the teaching, "Love thy neighbor as thyself."

  • 24

    For McCain this is High Stakes Poker. He is "all in", and has put his entire life-savings of career, reputation, integrity, and yes ... even his seven homes on the line.
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    It is the ultimate gamble, in doing so he is assuming that once in power he can say it was all "for the greater good".
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    I hate to see a "mavericky gambler" lose it all like a junky pawning off his family's heirlooms for one more hit of drugs. But alas, that is oft the tragic end of a broken one-time hero, and it seems it shall be the tale to be told once again. It shall be an interesting read in the history books, but sad nonetheless.

  • 25

    gysgt....I think I'll become ssgt....which service?

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